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lgarthy

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Ugh-- I watched the most recent episode "Boom."

Ncuti Gatwa is a good actor-- but kind of over-the-top with this episode. It tries too hard to pull at the heartstrings and kind of fails.

I think there is a connection between this episode and Time Bandits in that it was trying to achieve the emotional discordance that Terry Gilliam left his viewers with at the end of that film. If you haven't seen it or don't understand the reference, I apologize. Either way-- if Moffat was trying for a big emotionally ambivalent episode, I didn't feel it. It was trying to be deep and meaningful but it was cringe-worthy.

I don't know why I torture myself with the show. I want it to succeed. But I never got through Star Trek Discovery either. And I will be sucked in for another hour come episode 5.

RTD needs to be escorted off BBC premises. There is hope with the cast and budget and fan-base/potential fan-base.

So irritating.
 
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so ALL the numbers are in and this new joker only got 3.7 million views. thats everything including IPlayer. compared to every other Doctor including the Dawkta herself. they all averaged 9 or 10 million on their first episodes at least. the new guy lost over 6 million views. thats a lot of fans that were touching grass.
 
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Chukzombi said:
so ALL the numbers are in and this new joker only got 3.7 million views. thats everything including IPlayer. compared to every other Doctor including the Dawkta herself. they all averaged 9 or 10 million on their first episodes at least. the new guy lost over 6 million views. thats a lot of fans that were touching grass.
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Chukzombi Chukzombi Think there is any chance there are 6.3 million 'fans' that got that shit on the high seas as they are not giving Disney + any fucking money? Yeah me neither. I'm ambivalent about this season so far, I don't hate it , but it's not my man David Tennant either. It was a breath of fresh air that the flirting couple were boy & girl this time.
 
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Chukzombi Chukzombi Think there is any chance there are 6.3 million 'fans' that got that shit on the high seas as they are not giving Disney + any fucking money? Yeah me neither. I'm ambivalent about this season so far, I don't hate it , but it's not my man David Tennant either. It was a breath of fresh air that the flirting couple were boy & girl this time.
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nah, nobody is watching this shit. nobody who isnt a locked in fan or some progressive that is. the high seas is only worth doing so much until you realize that even for free, this is a monstrous waste of time. you just dont care that much about any of these characters anymore. i mean after they tell you that the Doctor started out as an angry black lesbian woman and she regenerated an infinite amount of times.
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I don't know what's getting shit on more, this or Assassins Creed
 
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Better question, which one deserves it more?
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Well they both blackwashed established cultures.

Who went a bit further and also made him a cock sucker.

Then again it's too early to tell if Ubisoft went there too. The NASA samurai might could be one too.
 
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Chukzombi said:
so ALL the numbers are in and this new joker only got 3.7 million views. thats everything including IPlayer. compared to every other Doctor including the Dawkta herself. they all averaged 9 or 10 million on their first episodes at least. the new guy lost over 6 million views. thats a lot of fans that were touching grass.
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Gee, what happens when angry fags start preaching to his viewers. What a shocker!
 
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Just saw the episode... I guess it'll be explained in the finale. I enjoyed it, but it's weird as fuck and I don't think it'll do the ratings any favours.

They nicely captured the existential dread that English people have of walking into a rural Welsh pub, they left out the talking in a different language on purpose to spite you thing though.
 
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But what a GREAT opening theme arrangement this year. You can always enjoy the opening credits, at least.

Not only that, but you can gain a little empathy for people with dyslexia.

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Watched 73 yards. Yup- it was good. A bit formulaic now to have the best Doctor Who episodes be sans Doctor Who, but I'll take it. Blink v 2.0 a bit, but entertaining and mildly delightful. The closing score with the grand piano is great.

Plus, they are clearly setting up Ruby being integral to some cosmic apocalypse. They don't HAVE to do that (she could just be a companion), but I think they are.
 
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Hang on a sec... Did they really take all the emotion out of the episode by making Ruby NOT remember it? No... seriously?
 
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Hang on a sec... Did they really take all the emotion out of the episode by making Ruby NOT remember it? No... seriously?
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I think the living an entire lifetime thing was a bit unbelivable so the less said about it the better. Like she fucks a load of guys because they sense something off with her and leave her, she joins one political campaign, then drinks wine in her sad flat until she dies.

When this happened to Martha it was one year living on post apocalyptic Earth with her and her family being so traumatised by the end of it that she left. That was good.

You are right though, what they do with this is important. The episode can be retrospectively ruined if it's not paid off properly. I guess it's showing what happens when Ruby fails, there's some sort of haunted timeloop until things go the right way.

Makes me think that Ruby dropped herself off at the church and we are in one of these loops right now.
 
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It's been done before (and quite successfully). I don't think for a second that none of the writers or producers of the show were unaware of the Star Trek TNG 's episode "The Inner Light" where Picard lives an entire lifetime in a minute. It was very effective/believable in that episode. In fact-- it was nominated/recognized as one of the best TNG/Star Trek episodes ever:
 
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lgarthy said:
It's been done before (and quite successfully). I don't think for a second that none of the writers or producers of the show were unaware of the Star Trek TNG 's episode "The Inner Light" where Picard lives an entire lifetime in a minute. It was very effective/believable in that episode. In fact-- it was nominated/recognized as one of the best TNG/Star Trek episodes ever:
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Flute tune gets me every time.
 
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lgarthy said:
It's been done before (and quite successfully). I don't think for a second that none of the writers or producers of the show were unaware of the Star Trek TNG 's episode "The Inner Light" where Picard lives an entire lifetime in a minute. It was very effective/believable in that episode. In fact-- it was nominated/recognized as one of the best TNG/Star Trek episodes ever:
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In a similar vein, the episode of DS9 where O’Brian basically lives out simulated decades in a prison was well done as well because we actually see the impacts on his mental state (for that episode anyways)

While those episodes were good, they did somewhat fall into the syndicated TV limbo that these types of character moments tend to end up. Beyond Picard having the flute on his desk in a couple episodes/movies, he never talks about it. Same with O’Brian.
 
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