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That's my concern as well. We do have a very nice massage chair we got last year, and we use it all the time, so I think we'd use the hot tub often.


Is that a public hot tub thing?

Specs on the tub you got? Any idea how much more in energy you're paying with the hot tub?

"Public" hottubs all have to fall between essentially 2 sets of "rules"....

1) It cant be above X temp, that is too hot and some one will burn their labias and sue you to oblivion
2) It cant be below Y temp, that breeds bacteria and Kajiimagi gets UTI's

What one of those two situations is /more/ likely to get you into a law suit that can be proven... 1

so... in reality everyone will set their temps low and then it just makes it happy warm soup temp....

At home, your going to have it as hot as you can stand and it will see WAY less traffic unless your a furry hosting orgies in it or something... and you will most likely keep the chemicals at a better upkeep than others.
 
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That's my concern as well. We do have a very nice massage chair we got last year, and we use it all the time, so I think we'd use the hot tub often.


Is that a public hot tub thing?

Specs on the tub you got? Any idea how much more in energy you're paying with the hot tub?

Absolutely! I got a Softub. The PoseidonX. It plugs in to a regular outlet, doesn't need to be wired. Can be emptied and moved by one person. It adds about $25 a month to our electric bill. Going to be less as I get more solar panels.

 
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Absolutely! I got a Softub. The PoseidonX. It plugs in to a regular outlet, doesn't need to be wired. Can be emptied and moved by one person. It adds about $25 a month to our electric bill. Going to be less as I get more solar panels.

I have a wife who has been wanting something like this... hurm.... And they don't look all that hideously expensive to boot. We have a 15x30 enclosed patio room on the back side of our house that would give a good place for this I think.

Of course, then we have the problem I actually came here to post about.....

OK. this is somewhere adjacent to home buying, and somewhat adjacent to the home improvement thread, and also touching on my latest rustled jimmies episode but I figure any input/opinions would be appreciated.

Scenario : The wife and I are gearing up to paint the interior of our house as it's a moderately low cost thing to do that the house could use. Whereas we're still considering the "buy land and move to the country" options we're not thinking about resale value here because all the houses in our neighborhood that get sold immediately get bulldozed and new McMansions dropped on the lot. In gearing up for this we talk to a painter we like, he says he can't quote it because the cracks in the walls are bad enough to be screaming "foundation issue". We call a foundation company we've worked with for my mom's house, they take one and say "Oh, 1965 drain under the house is cast iron and has rusted away to the point you're creating a mini septic system under the house and the swelling soil is pushing the center of the house up, call a plumber". Plumber confirms the rusted out drain pipe theory, him and another plumber quote solutions, one is a $20k reroute around the outside of the house, one is a $35k in place replacement of the drain pipe with new pipe, both schedule 40 PVC.

Now, we were talking about moving but haven't made significant motion on that yet (mostly because I've been lazy, and other issues over the last 2 years). But we are thinking :
  • Is this the sign we need to just find somewhere and pull the trigger on moving now? (which my patient and methodical planning side doesn't like)
  • Is this the sign we need to just accept we're going to live out our days here, bite the bullet, and get the work done. ( Mrs. Haus Mrs. Haus has admitted to me she kinda thinks my desire to move to the country was one of those "nice to think about" projects we'd never get around to... Not sure how much I agree/disagree with that)
The situation right now, according to the plumbers is that the drain should continue to function, but the ground swelling probably won't even go down meaning some terminal cracks and separations to deal with if we wanted to go the "ignore it" route. With knowing some day the pipe will fully collapse, and then it won't be an option of fix it or not if humans are going to keep living in the house.

My brain is wanting to go the less expensive "reroute" method on repairing it, but not give up on the house in the country plans. How insane am I? What am I missing here?
 

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Any of you guys have a hot tub? Give me the good, bad and ugly.

We have the room and our patio is covered. We will need a subpanel, but my buddy is an electrical contractor so that's not an issue.
If you're on the fence about it, get an inflatable for $300-400. Just plops down where ever you want and plugs into a normal outlet. Obviously not as nice as a real one, but close enough to let you know how much you'll use it and if you want to put up with dealing with it. If you use it a few times and never bother again, just toss it and you saved $10+k. If you use it all the time, upgrade.
 

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That's my concern as well. We do have a very nice massage chair we got last year, and we use it all the time, so I think we'd use the hot tub often.


Is that a public hot tub thing?

Specs on the tub you got? Any idea how much more in energy you're paying with the hot tub?
Hey to be fair, I misunderstood what you meant. I saw hot tub and thought the jacuzzi tubs in motels and such. That is what I was referring to. They are more open to the public and probably cleaned once a month by the part time maid.
 

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I have a wife who has been wanting something like this... hurm.... And they don't look all that hideously expensive to boot. We have a 15x30 enclosed patio room on the back side of our house that would give a good place for this I think.

Of course, then we have the problem I actually came here to post about.....

OK. this is somewhere adjacent to home buying, and somewhat adjacent to the home improvement thread, and also touching on my latest rustled jimmies episode but I figure any input/opinions would be appreciated.

Scenario : The wife and I are gearing up to paint the interior of our house as it's a moderately low cost thing to do that the house could use. Whereas we're still considering the "buy land and move to the country" options we're not thinking about resale value here because all the houses in our neighborhood that get sold immediately get bulldozed and new McMansions dropped on the lot. In gearing up for this we talk to a painter we like, he says he can't quote it because the cracks in the walls are bad enough to be screaming "foundation issue". We call a foundation company we've worked with for my mom's house, they take one and say "Oh, 1965 drain under the house is cast iron and has rusted away to the point you're creating a mini septic system under the house and the swelling soil is pushing the center of the house up, call a plumber". Plumber confirms the rusted out drain pipe theory, him and another plumber quote solutions, one is a $20k reroute around the outside of the house, one is a $35k in place replacement of the drain pipe with new pipe, both schedule 40 PVC.

Now, we were talking about moving but haven't made significant motion on that yet (mostly because I've been lazy, and other issues over the last 2 years). But we are thinking :
  • Is this the sign we need to just find somewhere and pull the trigger on moving now? (which my patient and methodical planning side doesn't like)
  • Is this the sign we need to just accept we're going to live out our days here, bite the bullet, and get the work done. ( Mrs. Haus Mrs. Haus has admitted to me she kinda thinks my desire to move to the country was one of those "nice to think about" projects we'd never get around to... Not sure how much I agree/disagree with that)
The situation right now, according to the plumbers is that the drain should continue to function, but the ground swelling probably won't even go down meaning some terminal cracks and separations to deal with if we wanted to go the "ignore it" route. With knowing some day the pipe will fully collapse, and then it won't be an option of fix it or not if humans are going to keep living in the house.

My brain is wanting to go the less expensive "reroute" method on repairing it, but not give up on the house in the country plans. How insane am I? What am I missing here?
If you go the sale it and move route, you will have to disclose the plumbing problem and peeps will use it to drive the sale cost down. Unless you live in a prime real estate location even 'demo and plop McMansions down' peeps are going to see blood in the water.

This sounds like if you ignore it you get to live with Mister Hanky. Make sure to post pics at Christmas.
 

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If you go the sale it and move route, you will have to disclose the plumbing problem and peeps will use it to drive the sale cost down. Unless you live in a prime real estate location even 'demo and plop McMansions down' peeps are going to see blood in the water.

This sounds like if you ignore it you get to live with Mister Hanky. Make sure to post pics at Christmas.
The offers I have gotten on the house so far are all sight unseen specifically saying they don't care about the house. Although they're also all what I assume to be low balls, they're still something like 3.5-4x what I paid for the house in 2001.

I'm leaning towards the less expensive fix option. That maintains some value and is the right thing if we stay here, but also doesn't cost so much as to make me feel "pot committed" to the house. Even though to be honest both are inexpensive enough I'll be grumpy about paying it, but not financially hamstrung by the cost.
 

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The offers I have gotten on the house so far are all sight unseen specifically saying they don't care about the house. Although they're also all what I assume to be low balls, they're still something like 3.5-4x what I paid for the house in 2001.

I'm leaning towards the less expensive fix option. That maintains some value and is the right thing if we stay here, but also doesn't cost so much as to make me feel "pot committed" to the house. Even though to be honest both are inexpensive enough I'll be grumpy about paying it, but not financially hamstrung by the cost.
Best of luck bro. If you move to the house you plan to die in (weird thing to think about but we are not getting younger) you will be fine. The thing about getting 3.5-4x what you paid for it, is you have to live somewhere and you get to buy/build/renovate in the now market where things cost 50x what they used to. i.e. I sold in the housing boom in Myrtle Beach SC and bought a house at asking price due to the same shit market. When I then sold that house I had to bring a check to closing. I'm still VERY jimmy rustled about that and it was in 2010.
 
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Best of luck bro. If you move to the house you plan to die in (weird thing to think about but we are not getting younger) you will be fine. The thing about getting 3.5-4x what you paid for it, is you have to live somewhere and you get to buy/build/renovate in the now market where things cost 50x what they used to. i.e. I sold in the housing boom in Myrtle Beach SC and bought a house at asking price due to the same shit market. When I then sold that house I had to bring a check to closing. I'm still VERY jimmy rustled about that and it was in 2010.
A number of the properties outside town I've been looking at fall in the line of "10-30 acres, existing double wide on property that needs work" type scenarios. Or a few with a pre-existing small Barndominuim. Perfect scenario would be we buy one of those, I spend a some time fixing up the double wide to be livable, and maybe build some storage space for other stuff. Then we could move into that while we build the "gonna die here" house. Which yes, is odd to think about, just like I'm at an age where I realize when our current dogs pass away if I get another dog it could possibly outlive me.

I'm blessed in that having worked a career in cybersecurity I have a pile of various stocks from RSUs and such, and figure that will also help to finance this when/if I get around to it. Originally I had thought about keeping this house and renting it out, but that idea becomes less appealing as time goes on it seems as I don't think I want to really be a landlord.
 
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A number of the properties outside town I've been looking at fall in the line of "10-30 acres, existing double wide on property that needs work" type scenarios. Or a few with a pre-existing small Barndominuim. Perfect scenario would be we buy one of those, I spend a some time fixing up the double wide to be livable, and maybe build some storage space for other stuff. Then we could move into that while we build the "gonna die here" house. Which yes, is odd to think about, just like I'm at an age where I realize when our current dogs pass away if I get another dog it could possibly outlive me.

I'm blessed in that having worked a career in cybersecurity I have a pile of various stocks from RSUs and such, and figure that will also help to finance this when/if I get around to it. Originally I had thought about keeping this house and renting it out, but that idea becomes less appealing as time goes on it seems as I don't think I want to really be a landlord.
That is sort of what I did here. We bought a 'poison mortgage' from Freddy Mack and between myself and my FIL we got it livable until we could get it all done the way we wanted. I had to take it 'as-is' but the price was hard to beat. I was a little concerned when we got the power turned on to check the water and there were so many leaks in the yard the house didn't have pressure. Also the asshole before me added a 12 zone sprinkler system to the yard w/o a shut off valve.
 

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Well yeah, I was just wondering how to less stupidly use a chainsaw, not how to less stupidly choose tools lol.
I have like a thousand chunks of tree in my backyard after having a couple taken down yesterday, so I was thinking of getting a chainsaw. So talk of disasterous home improvement via chainsaw was highly relevant.
Not sure how big the chunks you're talking about are, but if they're mostly under a foot or so in diameter, I like to use a sawzall with a shrubbery blade. In my opinion it's a bit easier to deal with as you're never worrying about kickback, overly worried about getting stuck (worst case you're out a couple dollars for the blade), and there's basically zero maintenance. Downside is it's a little bit slower, but not crazy slower.
 

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Not sure how big the chunks you're talking about are, but if they're mostly under a foot or so in diameter, I like to use a sawzall with a shrubbery blade. In my opinion it's a bit easier to deal with as you're never worrying about kickback, overly worried about getting stuck (worst case you're out a couple dollars for the blade), and there's basically zero maintenance. Downside is it's a little bit slower, but not crazy slower.
They're mostly between 1.5-2ft diameter. The tree guys cut them into 1-1.5 ft long sections so they'd be easier to move. In reality, I'll probably just roll them to my fenceline, but it feels bad to effectively waste two trees worth of wood though. Might be a better post for the woodworking thread, but I was thinking of seeing if I could do anything useful with them other than letting them sit there to rot. If they'd left them longer, I could maybe have gotten some slabs out of it or something, but now I'm like, what can I do with a bunch of 1.5ft wood cubes lol.