Online Poker - playing from the U.S.

OU Ariakas

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I know that Pokerstars and Ultimate Bet aren't available to U.S. citizens anymore; however, I have heard rumblings of other sites that accept U.S. players. Does anyone here play cash games online inside the U.S. legitimately?

I saw a place called BetOnline.com but none of the reviews from U.S. players are recent.

Update: We are starting a tournament group on Pokerstars.

Password is= woolygimp
Club ID = 2078525
Site - Pokerstars


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elcaro1101

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Only places I know that take US deposits are Bovada, now called Ignition, and America's Card Room.

I can't wait till states start following NJ and allowing P-Stars legally, as the other sites have only a fraction of the players. It is still illegal technically, and both sites have nowhere close to the regulation that Poker Stars commits to.


Also....fuck Sheldon Adelson.
 

spronk

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if you live in nevada WSOP.com is legal and lets you deposit/withdraw to bank/paypal and shit, I set up an account a while ago and it was pretty easy and I can even deposit/withdraw money at a few strip casino cages

I play once a month or so one of their weekly free poker tourneys, just for fun
 

OU Ariakas

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I still find it completely crazy that I cannot play for cash with people all over the globe. Watching Lex or Jason on Twitch playing in the WCOOP or SCOOP makes me angry that even after US legalization none of us will get to play those giant tourneys.
 

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I'm pretty sure you can play on heritage sports and access the WPN poker room. They take bitcoin deposits and payout in bitcoin so transfers should be pretty easy.
 

Woolygimp

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If they re-legalize online poker, I would gladly look forward to taking all of your money. Been playing professional poker since I was 16, and averaged roughly $250/hr throughout my entire online poker stint (used PokerTracker and that's over several million hands)...until the FBI shut that shit down. Now I have to settle with making $80-100 playing live.

Had a $300k house paid off by the time I was 23, a $60k BMW, and so forth. Now i've kind of gotten burned out, I don't have any real goals anymore. Money is money.

One problem with online poker is that we professionals have a huge advantage over you casuals. We use programs that keep track of every hand played. We then combine our databases, so that we have hundreds of millions of hands (including every hand you've specifically played).

When we sat down at a table with someone we had never played before, we would know your pre-flop raise percentage, the amount of times you continuation bet, the amount of times you bet the turn, how often you showdowned a hand, how often you won a hand at showdown, and up to 20 other stats.
A combination of those stats would show exactly what type of player you were. Loose-aggressive, passive-aggressive, tight-aggressive, aggro, donk, etc. Hopelessly outmatched from the get-go.

Basically, someone I have never played with before could sit down at a table with me and I would know more about how they played than themselves.

People were also well on their way to creating bots that could crush games. Last I knew they were profitable at $1/2 and up but they were making them better, and better and given enough time could probably create bots that would beat even the highest stakes.

Saw a picture of a guy with 4 racks per wall, covering an entire room, and on each were nothing but PC towers. Probably 300+ or so, each of them running bots on 8-16 tables.
 
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Wait a minute. Maybe Wooly really is Lumie. Did anyone ever see Luminati post again after Wooly started posting back on redraeganisahugefaggotrolled?

Cause they damn sure have similar posting styles.
 
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He really isn't all that wrong for the time he is describing.
 

Woolygimp

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I'm not Lumie FFS. I posted several times while Lumie was still posting, and I'm not stroking my e-cock so much as warning you guys what online poker is really about. I didn't make nearly a million dollars in my early 20's without knowing what I was doing, and certain people like Dwan (and his friends) made far more than I died.

Wait a minute. Maybe Wooly really is Lumie. Did anyone ever see Luminati post again after Wooly started posting back on redraeganisahugefaggotrolled?

Cause they damn sure have similar posting styles.

It's well known on these forums that I'm a poker player. I've said it several times, over several years.

He really isn't all that wrong for the time he is describing.

Thank you for not jumping to conclusions. It's because I'm not lying. I made it 3/4 of the way to the Porsche reward from PokerStars, but I missed having rakeback which was 3-4 grand a month just from breaking even.

 
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Godamnitt. I was looking for another thread to give me a break from the politics thread, and Wooly is here too.

Anyways, I was just looking a few days ago for some online poker. Haven't played since FullTilt got shut down.
I went to a trade show in Vegas last week and killed it in the small Caesar's Palace tournaments.
I used to play tournaments ~5 nights a week when I lived in Bend and haven't had cards on the regular for about 3 years. I was never really profitable with online games, I just want something to play while browsing the internet.
 
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Yeah, I did a lot of site hopping depending on player rewards/rakeback. I didn't make that kind of money, but it more than paid the bills.
 

zombiewizardhawk

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What are the odds that wooly makes a single post in this thread at any point in time without qualifying it by talking about how much money he made on online poker (or what songs coheed and cambria wrote about him).

As far as which ones are good and which aren't, i've read mixed reviews regarding payouts for every single one (people saying they get paid, people saying they get paid but it's a huge hastle and takes forever, people saying that their accounts got taken by admins and their poker money vanished in 2 hours of casino style games also affiliated with the website, and people saying they flat out never got paid) so I tend to stay away. Every now and then i'll throw a few bucks on one but I never really do it with the intention of making money/cashing out, I just do it to get my poker fix in between casino trips.
 
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OU Ariakas

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As far as which ones are good and which aren't, i've read mixed reviews regarding payouts for every single one (people saying they get paid, people saying that but it's a huge hastle and takes forever, people saying that their accounts got taken by admins and their poker money vanished in 2 hours of casino style games also affiliated with the website, and people saying they flat out never got paid) so I tend to stay away. Every now and then i'll throw a few bucks on one but I never really do it with the intention of making money/cashing out, I just do it to get my poker fix in between casino trips.

It seems like all the cash out stories are about people who order checks so that they can deposit in a bank or a huge amount of money. I think my first foray into Bitcoin is going to be so that I can get my online poker fix.
 

Woolygimp

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Last time I went to Vegas for the World Series, I was late to the table. I sat down just in time before my hand was auto-mucked, looked down at AA. I raised, the MP (guy to my left) 3-bet, folded around, I 4-bet, he 5-bet, and at this point I know he has KK and decide to just call and get the money in post flop. We started with 20,000. We each put about 4,000 in pre.

Pots $8,000. Flop is K22. I check, he checks.

Turn is an 8, I check, he checks.

River is a T, I bet $2000 (sheepishly) trying to block because I knew he had KK but didn't want to check/call anything larger, he raises, I insta-fold. After I got busted out he comes up to me and asked if I had aces, I said yes. He said, "wow sick, I wasn't folding, you should have gotten all my money but I got lucky on the flop."
 
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Woolygimp

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Ended up winning $23,000 for the trip altogether, but stayed at the RIO and got hookers every night for the entire time. I ended up 18 grand in the whole between Hookers and the RIO's bill.

40 grand spent in a couple months on girls. It was a fucking blast.
 
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Woolygimp

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This is the worst bad beat I've ever taken. I was playing pot limit Omaha, 50/100 HU with a real rich guy.

I was up around $14,000 (bought in for $2,000) and he bought in to cover me. It was the last hand of the night.

I got dealt Ad Kh Kd Jh. I limped to $100, he made it $300, I made it $900, he calls.

Flop is: Qh Jh 4d. I flopped the full nut wrap, any card 9-A makes me the nut straight, any heart gives me the nut flush, and I have backdoor nut diamonds, with a pair of kings. Monster hand, I couldn't have hit it harder.

I check, he bets $1800, I make it $9000, he shoves, I call.

He flips over 7s 8s 9s 4c. He has a pair of fours, no possible flush.

Turn is a 5s, River is 6c. Backdoor straight for $30 grand. Guy next to me who had played his entire laugh didn't stop laughing for thirty minutes saying that was the worst beat he's ever seen. A bunch of other spectators looked like they were going to puke...

The dealer got up and begged me for an apology. Yep. Stuck it in with a pair of fours in Omaha against the strongest hand I could have for 15 grand.
 

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If they re-legalize online poker, I would gladly look forward to taking all of your money. Been playing professional poker since I was 16, and averaged roughly $250/hr throughout my entire online poker stint (used PokerTracker and that's over several million hands)...until the FBI shut that shit down. Now I have to settle with making $80-100 playing live.

Had a $300k house paid off by the time I was 23, a $60k BMW, and so forth. Now i've kind of gotten burned out, I don't have any real goals anymore. Money is money.

One problem with online poker is that we professionals have a huge advantage over you casuals. We use programs that keep track of every hand played. We then combine our databases, so that we have hundreds of millions of hands (including every hand you've specifically played).

When we sat down at a table with someone we had never played before, we would know your pre-flop raise percentage, the amount of times you continuation bet, the amount of times you bet the turn, how often you showdowned a hand, how often you won a hand at showdown, and up to 20 other stats.
A combination of those stats would show exactly what type of player you were. Loose-aggressive, passive-aggressive, tight-aggressive, aggro, donk, etc. Hopelessly outmatched from the get-go.

Basically, someone I have never played with before could sit down at a table with me and I would know more about how they played than themselves.

People were also well on their way to creating bots that could crush games. Last I knew they were profitable at $1/2 and up but they were making them better, and better and given enough time could probably create bots that would beat even the highest stakes.

Saw a picture of a guy with 4 racks per wall, covering an entire room, and on each were nothing but PC towers. Probably 300+ or so, each of them running bots on 8-16 tables.

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This is the worst bad beat I've ever taken. I was playing pot limit Omaha, 50/100 HU with a real rich guy.

I was up around $14,000 (bought in for $2,000) and he bought in to cover me. It was the last hand of the night.

I got dealt Ad Kh Kd Jh. I limped to $100, he made it $300, I made it $900, he calls.

Flop is: Qh Jh 4d. I flopped the full nut wrap, any card 9-A makes me the nut straight, any heart gives me the nut flush, and I have backdoor nut diamonds, with a pair of kings. Monster hand, I couldn't have hit it harder.

I check, he bets $1800, I make it $9000, he shoves, I call.

He flips over 7s 8s 9s 4c. He has a pair of fours, no possible flush.

Turn is a 5s, River is 6c. Backdoor straight for $30 grand. Guy next to me who had played his entire laugh didn't stop laughing for thirty minutes saying that was the worst beat he's ever seen. A bunch of other spectators looked like they were going to puke...

The dealer got up and begged me for an apology. Yep. Stuck it in with a pair of fours in Omaha against the strongest hand I could have for 15 grand.

You played the entire hand and nobody mentioned the duplicate jacks of hearts? You got robbed.
 
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