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Losing without dignity, having no dignity what so ever, and attempting to get nearly half the country to cry like babies and also to lose without dignity?

That's true unification. True leadership.
 
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Feel free (I dare you) to watch this whole thing, but the first 15 minutes or so describe this thread to a tee, Scratch.

"Bonobo Politics"

 
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Losing without dignity, having no dignity what so ever, and attempting to get nearly half the country to cry like babies and also to lose without dignity?

That's true unification. True leadership.

That's a pretty good attempt for a half-wit but Hillary conceded and disappeared, textbook loss with dignity. Trump's a fucking traitor.
 
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I've got hundreds of post documenting in exquisite detail his betrayal of the United States of America, feel free to read it. I dare you. You would if you weren't blind. You think Trump is unifying the country while he rips it apart. You are literally sitting here defending a foreign dictator - arguably Americas greatest enemy, who murders his political opponents and interfered with our election - for attacking the American Democratic party on it's dignity of all things.

Trumps strings are showing
 
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Olscratch

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Literally every day a new link is revealed.

Trump’s pick for national security adviser had role in firm co-led by man who tried to sell material to the KGB
"President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for national security adviser partnered in recent months with a technology company co-led by a businessman who pleaded guilty to trying to sell stolen scientific material in the 1980s to the KGB, the former Soviet intelligence service.
Retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn joined the advisory board of Brainwave Science in February, company documents show.

One of Brainwave’s two-member board of directors was Sabu Kota, an Indian-born software engineer who pleaded guilty in 1996 to selling stolen biotech material to an FBI agent posing as a Soviet spy. Prosecutors said the sale stemmed from what they called Kota’s involvement in a spy ring that passed sensitive defense technology to the KGB between 1985 and 1990, according to a Defense Department summary of the case."
 
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Olscratch

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Tea party are conservatives, not libertarians. They tend to be neo-platonist mystics, not aristotelian objectivists.

And what does Marxism have to do with environmentalism? Can you draw that line for me?

Sure. I'd like to see government takeover/nationalization the oil and energy companies. They are incompetent to clean up their messes and destruction. As deepwater horizon showed us they even cover up and lie about the extent of their disasters. Drilling tech efficiency has increased 1000% in 50 years and clean up tech has improved 0%. They are too rich not to influence their regulatory bodies rendering them useless.

Same with water. The waters should be owned by the peoples body, not private companies selling it off during a devastating drought, so I'd nationalize the water companies.
 
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Sure. I'd like to see government takeover/nationalization the oil and energy companies. They are incompetent to clean up their messes and destruction. As deepwater horizon showed us they even cover up and lie about the extent of their disasters. Drilling tech efficiency has increased 1000% in 50 years and clean up tech has improved 0%. They are too rich not to influence their regulatory bodies rendering them useless.

Same with water. The waters should be owned by the peoples body, not private companies selling it off during a devastating drought, so I'd nationalize the water companies.

Wow.

Yeah that's just plain ole Marixism 101. I thought maybe you had some new spin on it or something.

So I assume you are an egalitarian altruist?

What is 'the people's body' and who speaks for it? By what mechanism do we determine what is best for the 'people's body'?
 
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Wow.

Yeah that's just plain ole Marixism 101. I thought maybe you had some new spin on it or something.

So I assume you are an egalitarian altruist?

What is 'the people's body' and who speaks for it? By what mechanism do we determine what is best for the 'people's body'?

I would say egalitarianism and altruism are noble virtues. That is equality and selflessness. I would not say I live up to those principals. I believe every citizen should be treated equally under the law. However I do not personally believe all people are created equal, or that all cultures are equal, or that all religions or ideologies are equal. In fact I abhor false equivalencies.

The people's body is of course supposed to be the government. As Lincoln famously said, "Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth."
Like most people I don't believe we actually have a government by and for the people. The majority of our modern representatives are bought and sold by corporate or oligarchic interests, or in the case of our new executive, foreign interests.

Here in Texas the mechanism by which we determine what is best for the peoples body is by electing the stupidest yet most religious people we can find to deliberate such matters. These noted anti-intellectuals include Louis Gohmert, George W Bush, Ted Cruz, and Rick Perry. I would prefer to see the opposite.
Rather than the zombie hoards of under-educated drunk and ignorant christians electing representatives I'd prefer to see the opposite, a technocracy (Technocracy is an organizational structure or system of governance where decision-makers are selected on the basis of technological knowledge) or a meritocracy.
 
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The great uniter!

Hard to unite with people who act like whiney bitches at the thought of working with you. Putins right.

Whiny bitches like yourself have no manners or dignity.
 
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I would say egalitarianism and altruism are noble virtues. That is equality and selflessness. I would not say I live up to those principals. I believe every citizen should be treated equally under the law. However I do not personally believe all people are created equal, or that all cultures are equal, or that all religions or ideologies are equal. In fact I abhor false equivalencies.

The people's body is of course supposed to be the government. As Lincoln famously said, "Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth."
Like most people I don't believe we actually have a government by and for the people. The majority of our modern representatives are bought and sold by corporate or oligarchic interests, or in the case of our new executive, foreign interests.

Here in Texas the mechanism by which we determine what is best for the peoples body is by electing the stupidest yet most religious people we can find to deliberate such matters. These noted anti-intellectuals include Louis Gohmert, George W Bush, Ted Cruz, and Rick Perry. I would prefer to see the opposite.
Rather than the zombie hoards of under-educated drunk and ignorant christians electing representatives I'd prefer to see the opposite, a technocracy (Technocracy is an organizational structure or system of governance where decision-makers are selected on the basis of technological knowledge) or a meritocracy.

You aspire to be selfless? Are you sure that's not just virtue-signaling?

Altruism is human sacrifice. It is what those Christians you hate so much founded their religion on. It's a pyramid scheme of altruistic sheep all trying to emulate what they perceive to be the ultimate human sacrifice. The people at the bottom endlessly sacrifice themselves while those at the top only feign to. Jesus himself was a feignt. He either didn't exist and thus gives us a false ideal, or he was merely using pretend voodoo magic on ignorant women and slaves to cure them of the mystical metaphysical disease that he himself gave them, sin.

If I was a jew at that time I would have told him I don't need or desire his sacrifice. I need his work or his effort not his death. I would have told him that human sacrifice is a form of barbarism and anyone either asking for it or demanding it is an agent of moral evil. I would have told him to tell his dad to go fuck himself, that these earth monkeys don't need his 'altruism' or his wholly worthless sacrifice.

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For your own sake I ask you not to selflessly and altruistically sacrifice yourself to me, Scratch. It obliterates you and enables me. It is lose/lose. Instead, we should work together using each of our own moral and rational self interests to find a win/win solution. You can make my shoes and I'll grow your rice. Don't kill yourself to make shoes and I won't kill myself to harvest your rice. Maybe, instead of hurting ourselves and each other through endless displays of lose/lose altruistic grabs at metaphysical virtue-points, we can trade the efforts of each of our respective labors to find an amicable and self serving solution to my lack of shoes and your lack of rice. We can call this solution capitalism.
 
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The reason you find yourself failing to live up to your ideal is because your ideal is illogical, irrational, emotive, and has endless destructive power.

For your own sake and for mine, please do not be selfless. Be compassionate, be respectful of yourself and others, and remember that you cannot help others unless you first help yourself.

On that note, I couldn't help noticing that the egalitarian "of the people by the people" altruist seems to not want to sacrifice himself to the democratic process of the stupid proles in his own state. That demos doesn't count because they don't hold the right political views. The altruist will tell them that they shouldn't get to decide what the nature of their 'people's body' is. The altruist will selflessly put himself at the head of the people's body in order to tell them what is best for them. The virtue is almost palpable.

We shall not allow them to elect their leaders, rather we shall elect them for them. We the technocrats, with our superior knowledge of the.Marxist philosphical tech shall decide what is right for them.

"Marxism is the aristocracy of political conformity. "
 
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I think this might be the worst thread ever created in any iteration of this board.

@Amod, rickshaw this fucking shit already.
 
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