Lumi's Batshit Insane Thread

Void said:

Why would I read some crazy fuck's work? He literally admitted to making all that shit up. Or was that just because big pharma threatened his life and he had to claim it was all bogus? Let me guess, that was it, wasn't it?

Ok, sorry, does anyone that isn't completely batshit crazy have any thoughts?

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If you really believe that some of the Big Pharma studies sourced in Wakefield's book are completely fabricated with not even 1% of truth to them, or that he didn't discover any smoke at all-- I think you'd be the crazy one here.

I'll see if I can locate the rhesus study on NLM or NIH, but its entirely possible it won't be able to be located free of charge. I'd also be doing this for myself, just as further confirmation. I'm well aware of which portions were manipulated as far as his big claim to fame goes, but at this point this post further reinforces my belief you have never actually looked into the peripheral of this situation and dogpiled yourself onto public opinion without doing any investigation of your own.

You strike me as a headline-only type of guy-- relying on others to do the grunt work for you. And what is my basis for this observation? Because that's exactly what I perceive you to be doing in this thread.

I am making this post just incase anyone else here actually believes what you said-- they can testify on Wakefield themselves. Filing it all under crazy won't do.

BrotherWu said:

How do vaccines cause autism?

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Then why is there a court specifically made for vaccine injuries that has awarded thousands of families millions of dollars due to injuries caused by vaccines? Oh and 83 of which were specifically for vaccine induced autism. Now that's 83 that were able to be proven in a court of law. Imagine how many others there have been that can no longer be proven. Sorry but it's actually a proven fact that vaccines cause autism and neurological diseases.

What are your thoughts on the efficacy of remote viewing when searching for missing relatives?

My son was showing signs of autism long before any needles got near his flesh.

I suspected it by about 8 months old.

Quaid said:

My son was showing signs of autism long before any needles got near his flesh.

I suspected it by about 8 months old.

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He will just claim it was because you or your wife got vaccinated.

khalid said:

He will just claim it was because you or your wife got vaccinated.

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Well, it wasn't my wife.

They don't vaccinate on her worl....err she's from Cambodia.

Quaid said:

My son was showing signs of autism long before any needles got near his flesh.

I suspected it by about 8 months old.

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How is your wife's mercury exposure? Not that you care, you can't stop industrialization and the wrongs of it. But it would be good to know about any of the more obvious signs of mercury exposure such as getting dental work during pregnancy, vaccines during pregnancy, existing mercury fillings in the mouth and how long has she had them (its a cumulative toxin, like lead).

The womb/fetus/ and its developing brain (up until age 8 or 9) is very sensitive to mercury, as the FDA was finally forced to admit. Its basically luck of the draw on whether the womb gets hit with too much burden (even without exposure to known sources, there's tons of mercury around that shouldn't be)

A lot of ADHD cases are likely just mercury burden as a function of where the person grew up, what they ate, tap water, and so forth..vaccines certainly don't help as brain swelling isn't all that healthy, as you might guess.

jayrebb said:

How is your wife's mercury exposure? Not that you care, you can't stop industrialization and the wrongs of it. But it would be good to know about any of the more obvious signs of mercury exposure such as getting dental work during pregnancy, vaccines during pregnancy, existing mercury fillings in the mouth and how long has she had them (its a cumulative toxin, like lead).

The womb/fetus/ and its developing brain (up until age 8 or 9) is very sensitive to mercury, as the FDA was finally forced to admit. Its basically luck of the draw on whether the womb gets hit with too much burden (even without exposure to known sources, there's tons of mercury around that shouldn't be)

A lot of ADHD cases are likely just mercury burden as a function of where the person grew up, what they ate, tap water, and so forth..vaccines certainly don't help as brain swelling isn't all that healthy, as you might guess.

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Not really high risk of mercury. We live inland, very low in fish diet, and she doesn't really like it anyway. No fillings. Tap water is fine.

My first cousin is also on the spectrum, and while my uncle was never diagnosed, we suspect he is as well. This is just a thing in my family.

Quaid said:

My first cousin is also on the spectrum, and while my uncle was never diagnosed, we suspect he is as well. This is just a thing in my family.

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As is the whole of Ireland for that matter...

I appreciate the details just the same. As a_skeleton_03 said, back to the vaccines.

Lumi said:

Then why is there a court specifically made for vaccine injuries that has awarded thousands of families millions of dollars due to injuries caused by vaccines? Oh and 83 of which were specifically for vaccine induced autism. Now that's 83 that were able to be proven in a court of law. Imagine how many others there have been that can no longer be proven. Sorry but it's actually a proven fact that vaccines cause autism and neurological diseases.

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Christ almighty I feel dirty quoting a lumi post but that "vaccine court" is also 100% funded by tax payer money. I am no anti vaxxer but I do have safety concerns and I really don't appreciate my money being used to pay off injury cases because pharmaceutical companies are exempt and can not be sued at all for vaccine related injuries. I'm not talking about Autism specifically here but to say that reactions to vaccines never happens is a bit absurd. They're just like any other medication. Check the inserts. There's a very long list of mild to life threatening reactions that can occur just like many standard medications on the market.

Woefully Inept said:

Christ almighty I feel dirty quoting a lumi post but that "vaccine court" is also 100% funded by tax payer money. I am no anti vaxxer but I do have safety concerns and I really don't appreciate my money being used to pay off injury cases because pharmaceutical companies are exempt and can not be sued at all for vaccine related injuries. I'm not talking about Autism specifically here but to say that reactions to vaccines never happens is a bit absurd. They're just like any other medication. Check the inserts. There's a very long list of mild to life threatening reactions that can occur just like many standard medications on the market.

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Especially when profits take priority over safety. Look into adjuvants and why they were created.

Cliffs for headline people: Adjuvants allow the manufacturer to use less vaccine, nearly cutting production costs by over half. This is done by putting an additional toxin in the vaccine that is guaranteed to cause a site immune reaction (aluminum and mercury) which have been called "preservatives". They are actually not preservatives as anyone with any common sense might have guessed, as neither of those metals is capable of conveying any preservative properties.

Just look at the slimy way big Pharm has tried to avoid admitting adjuvants are designed to boost the effectiveness of the vaccine while reducing the actual quantity of the vaccine.

I think I need to wash my hands now yuck.

Strike 1.

The second cost-cutting big profit measure was not only the MMR vaccine being combined, but even more dangerous, the invention of the BIG MULTI-DOSE VACCINE JUG. This is a huge jug of multi-dose vaccine which carries a risk of the vaccine not being the appropriate dose, being over drawn, or having extra adjuvants out of solution and therefore just getting a massive shot of mercury/aluminum by accident (as you might imagine, the solubility of mercury sulfate whatever the fuck they call it Thimerosal ( TRADEMARKED Mercury wow, amazing ) is subject to change and likely delicate).

Yeah I'm sure a big fat vat of 3 different vaccines in it, with adjuvants in it is real safe. Are you kidding me? You kids make me smile.

Any idiot here who has taken a science class could see the safety issue in switching to a jug when we are talking about microns of a dose. Stack on adjuvants with the jug. Again, this was done to cut costs of producing single, safe, quality controlled vaccine doses.

Yikes, big money interests calling the shots again.

Strike 2.

Government never stepped in and said "Hey, maybe you guys should make the vaccines as safe as possible without any profit motive. You know those jugs and combining MMR in a jug seems kinda dumb, and ajdjuvants??? Just make the full strength vaccine, we will compensate you for lost profits from not using the adjuvant technology and the jugs"

Strike 3.

You're out of here Void .

So if 1 out of 68 births develop autism in the US, and 90% of those births get MMR vaccine, one could say that 1 out of 62 MMR vaccinated births develop autism. Why don't the other 98%?

Drakain said:

So if 1 out of 68 births develop autism in the US, and 90% of those births get MMR vaccine, one could say that 1 out of 62 MMR vaccinated births develop autism. Why don't the other 98%?

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Genetics, timing of the vaccine, and as mentioned, quality control issues of the vaccine itself are all probable variables that have been speculated on.

The same reason everyone has different symptoms when they get the flu, the same reason why mononucleosis affects some people worse than others, some peoples spleens blow up, some don't, the same reason why some people never get mononucleosis. The same reason why someone recovers in X Y Z amount of days with X Y Z symptoms versus another person. We are all different. Talk to dog breeder about breeds. Cultural Marxism has prevented science from looking at differences between different groups of people and ethnicities. Ask a horse breeder if the breed matters, ask a dog breeder how fast you can breed such and such a trait...Would you believe human are any different? The rules don't apply? We aren't all different? Genetic variation isn't a factor? Come on.

And it goes without saying its all cumulative, there is no smoking gun, vaccines are just speculated to be one of the probable causes via toxicity of adjuvants combined with the inherent risks of the actual vaccine itself.

Lastly, Brain inflammation in an infant decidedly isn't all that great of an idea. Which is why anyone against delayed schedules is a pro-vaccine quack not worthy of a medical license. The "greater good" company line is just that, a company line. Delayed schedules are the future and the vaccine hawks aren't likely to stop common sense vaccine reforms from occurring despite the anti-vax nuts best efforts to distract, derail, and extremify the discussion..

FDA confirms elevated levels of belladonna in certain homeopathic teething products

FDA has found harmful to lethal amounts of Belladonna in certain Homeopathic Baby's Teething products. It has sickened 400 babies and caused at least 10 deaths. The maker has responded by refusing to issue a recall because they don't believe the FDA and the "National Center for Homeopathy" has accused the FDA of only being interested in destroying homeopathy.

That anti science industry needs to get crushed. Fuck them all.