Rule Change Suggestions - Aug 2017 elections

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a_skeleton_03

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Oh well... If anyone wants to use this thread to "stickie" an idea you have for a rule change so you know where to find it come the next election, feel free. I'll even try to compile the serious suggestions into a list and remind you when the time comes.
Aren't you just the most special Robin Hood. Man oh man you make me laugh.

King in exile!!
 
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Tanoomba

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Are you stalking me, SuiSui? I'm not trying to overthrow you, despite what you may think.
 
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a_skeleton_03

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Are you stalking me, SuiSui? I'm not trying to overthrow you, despite what you may think.
As if you could and I try to read most threads or at least pop in from time to time in different subforums that highlight red to me.

How can I administrate well if I don't know what is going on in as many threads as possible.
 

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Anyone wanna start placing bets on how long till moonbat gets banned again?

He's clearly working towards that goal right now.
 

Tanoomba

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Was all of this your attempt at acting as moderator since you will never get to be one?
Not that you'll take me at my word, but no, it was not. I was just trying to help this place run a little more smoothly. As they say, "No good deed goes unpunished".
 
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a_skeleton_03

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Not that you'll take me at my word, but no, it was not. I was just trying to help this place run a little more smoothly. As they say, "No good deed goes unpunished".
This place is running like pure utter shit isn't it.

How about this?

Give us a manifesto of what is wrong right now. For real, air out all your grievances.
 
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Yeah, I am curious about your own proposed rule changes? I'm personally fine with everything as is but more opinions are never bad eh?
 

Tanoomba

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This place is running like pure utter shit isn't it.

How about this?

Give us a manifesto of what is wrong right now. For real, air out all your grievances.
Dude, relax.

This place is running fine. You've been doing a fantastic job and we love you. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Thank you for your commitment to this community and all the work you've done to keep the board running smoothly.

You don't have the monopoly on caring about this community, though. As great as this place is, it is an organic entity that is still going through growing pains and can certainly use a few minor tweaks here and there.

As for your official list of grievances, that was the point of this thread. This is a place where members (not just me) can express their ideas about how the site can be made better without having to worry about missing one of their two opportunities a year to have those ideas addressed. For whatever reason you saw this as a threat, like I was trying to take over your system or push my personal agenda on the board.

I'm not your enemy. I'm not playing mind games or trying to gain power and influence for my own personal gain. I'm just a humble member of this community who saw an opportunity to use my limited power to try to improve this place just a wee bit. I apologize if that offended you. Khalid's reaction was entirely unsurprising, he's abused his mod powers just to fuck with me before. I legitimately thought you were above that (you allowed me back, after all), so I don't know where all this hostility is coming from.
 
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a_skeleton_03

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I don't know where all this hostility is coming from.
You said you want the site to run smoother.

By doing so you are saying it isn't running as smooth as it can.

So air your grievances. How can it run smoother?

You aren't a threat. You are the furthest thing from humble or innocent though. You being a member of this community might be a stretch as well, not entirely sure.
 

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So air your grievances. How can it run smoother?

Didn't he already make that clear? To save potential rule changes/additions in one location so they're not forgotten come rule voting time. If anyone else posted this, would you all be so obtuse?

Personally, I think if you can't remember to submit a rule change during voting time, it probably wasn't that important a rule change in the first place.
 
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Tanoomba

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How can it run smoother?

Here's one idea: A thread where people can post their suggestions for changes to the rules. This way, the suggestions can be noted, discussed and improved during the six-month periods between elections. Come election time, we'll have a list of refined suggestions that have been primed for consideration and possible voting. The originators of said ideas can then follow whatever procedure you like to bring them to your attention at the appropriate time. The thread serves to reduce the chances of people forgetting an idea for a rule change they had months ago, as well as the chances of them missing their limited window to have their ideas considered.
 
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a_skeleton_03

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Didn't he already make that clear? To save potential rule changes/additions in one location so they're not forgotten come rule voting time. If anyone else posted this, would you all be so obtuse?

Personally, I think if you can't remember to submit a rule change during voting time, it probably wasn't that important a rule change in the first place.
That doesn't make the site run smoother. There is an absolutely perfect system that if the people want change they can ask for it. It is happening as we type this out. Moderators AND rules are being voted on.

I didn't ask why this thread. I didn't move this thread. I asked how the site in its entirety could run smoother. Of course I would ask that of anyone that had posted the same statements. How am I being obtuse?
 
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a_skeleton_03

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Here's one idea: A thread where people can post their suggestions for changes to the rules. This way, the suggestions can be noted, discussed and improved during the six-month periods between elections. Come election time, we'll have a list of refined suggestions that have been primed for consideration and possible voting. The originators of said ideas can then follow whatever procedure you like to bring them to your attention at the appropriate time. The thread serves to reduce the chances of people forgetting an idea for a rule change they had months ago, as well as the chances of them missing their limited window to have their ideas considered.
So no, you have no ideas to make the site run smoother.

Guess what we have a thread already for that kind of discussion. Impress me and link it to me.
 
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I'm just a humble member of this community who saw an opportunity to use my limited power
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I'm not playing mind games or trying to gain power and influence for my own personal gain.

That's good cos apparently you have none.
Suggestion: Voting results should be invisible during the entire mod election and only be made visible after the results are final.

Rationale: Being able to see the results on the fly encourages strategizing and changing votes for candidates who people think are going to win instead of who they think should win. There are users who might make great mods but who will never gain enough momentum as long as people see they haven't received many votes and assume they would be a wasted vote.

Also, we have already seen people being publicly shamed for their votes, a practice which has no place here. Keeping vote results hidden will help curb this disgusting behavior.
I didn't change my votes the first time nor this one. Whoever participates can and should change their votes as they see fit. Were you arguing against transparency in favor of hindering some bandwagon effect? Don't see this is an issue, man.
 

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So no, you have no ideas to make the site run smoother.

Guess what we have a thread already for that kind of discussion. Impress me and link it to me.
You said there were 2 threads to discuss new changes to rules. I asked you if those two threads were the ones each created to address very specific changes being voted on, and you confirmed they were.

Clearly, I couldn't find any thread where people could post suggestions for rule changes when it's not election time or I wouldn't have created this one. When anybody mentioned any suggestions in the Ask Amod thread, your response was "Bring it up again during mod elections". In several cases, this led to the ideas being lost forever. Sure, that's on the people who didn't bring it up again. I'm merely offering a tool that's better suited to help these guys out and minimize ideas being lost before they get a chance to be addressed.
 
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Tanoomba

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I didn't change my votes the first time nor this one. Whoever participates can and should change their votes as they see fit. Were you arguing against transparency in favor of hindering some bandwagon effect? Don't see this is an issue, man.
Great! Neither does a_skeleton_03, and he banned the very concept from being considered, so there will never be a vote where we could find out just how many people DO see it as an issue. Moving along...
 
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You said there were 2 threads to discuss new changes to rules. I asked you if those two threads were the ones each created to address very specific changes being voted on, and you confirmed they were.

Clearly, I couldn't find any thread where people could post suggestions for rule changes when it's not election time or I wouldn't have created this one. When anybody mentioned any suggestions in the Ask Amod thread, your response was "Bring it up again during mod elections". In several cases, this led to the ideas being lost forever. Sure, that's on the people who didn't bring it up again. I'm merely offering a tool that's better suited to help these guys out and minimize ideas being lost before they get a chance to be addressed.
So you got it correct, it was the Amod thread. If it's in this thread or that thread they are going to forget it if they forget it.

What you are hoping to do I bet is be a curator so that you can be lauded as a hero of the downtrodden.

Like I said keep trying to be Robin Hood, a king in exile.
 
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Can we just go ahead and reban this goddamn faggot for another 3 months (or better yet, even longer) now?
 
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