Rerolled bro's, I need your help.....

Magimaster said:

Sorry, hadn't had a chance to post for a bit.

But yeah, the search for him has been suspended. It was just too long between the accident and when we found the vehicle, don't really know what happened to his body at this point.

We had a Memorial Service for him last Saturday. Had a lot of people show, both co-workers and friends, so people had a chance to talk about him and things like that.

Right now, its just learning to get back to work and life and learning how to live with things as they are. And its not always easy.

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Stay strong. Practice the Golden Rule. Be who you would have thought he would have wanted you to be. It's no guarantee, but it's a safe bet.

Yeah, if you were close it will take a year. And at the end of the year you'll just be a different person. You have to go through the entire cycle. But it's not like every day is oppressive. This part is the rough patch. The oppressiveness of the grief wanes quickly.

Past that year, sometimes you'll keenly remember a lost one. And then feel bad because you don't remember them more often. That's a thing that happens.

A gravestone does help, because you can focus that into a physical object. But, you could do the exact same thing with a photo.

iannis said:

Yeah, if you were close it will take a year. And at the end of the year you'll just be a different person. You have to go through the entire cycle. But it's not like every day is oppressive. This part is the rough patch. The oppressiveness of the grief wanes quickly.

Past that year, sometimes you'll keenly remember a lost one. And then feel bad because you don't remember them more often. That's a thing that happens.

A gravestone does help, because you can focus that into a physical object. But, you could do the exact same thing with a photo.

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I still think about mine everyday and it has been 10 years. It was the hardest one for me of all the family deaths and friends. It was about a year before I could do it and not tear up a bit. Everyone is different in how they handle it but I heard his voice in place of others, saw his face when he wasn't there and many times felt he was right there beside me. At times something really great was accomplished or something very bad happened it felt he was right there beside me encouraging me. I came to embrace it. I know the pain Magistar must be going through and want him to know he is not alone and the strange things we say today will hopefully make sense later on. I found over time the greatest honor I could give mine is to not forget him. I wish Magistar nothing but the best.

As to Iannis and the object. Long ago there was an old joke where I didn't go to work one week and my brother came over beating on the door ( we were roofers ) and I yelled out the window go away I'm sick. This was back before cell phones and I didn't have a landline hooked up so he didn't know. He got out a ladder and climbed up to the 2nd floor window. Scared the living shit out of me. I vomited right there and said I told you I was sick. Fast forward years and a few years past his death I was cleaning out a rental property and lots of things were left behind. We had to clean up the house for the new tenants where I was working and I found a tiny tombstone about 3x3 inches that said I told you I was sick. I couldn't believe it! I super glued it to the dash of my van and it has sat there for over 5 years now. I'll grab a picture of it. Everyday I drive I look at it and giggle a little bit the look on his face when I threw up everywhere.

holy crap, sorry bro Magimaster :-(

edit: Florida bro...and Payne's Prairie - just south of UF - driven the main road through that many times from the WE BEAR ALL exit to UF to avoid archer and shit.. Florida and rerebro my prayers are with you and your family.... and I am sure you know- but not to be an ahole... but them there gators are real deal in Payne's Prairie yo...its swap (err everglades)

Gunnar said:

I don't mean to dredge this up but when the car was found were the doors closed and windows in tact? As in ejection wouldn't have happened? What did his seat belt look like?

Since he was on the job is there any way to make them help?

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Its a rollover, windows aren't going to be intact regardless.

I understand the intent of the questions, but ejected or not, if he wasn't in the car, he wasn't in the car. Seat belt not being found locked by the police is a given here.

He could have survived the initial crash and tried to get out, but I don't know if you can tread or swim in that kind of water. I'd guess being freshly concussed your chances are pretty slim in that kind of growth. It doesn't really matter whether he escaped the vehicle conscious or whether he was ejected. The end result is likely the same. The growth here sounds thick enough to slow him down, maybe even prevent him from reaching the surface-- with fresh injuries from the rollover, he's not going to be found camping out somewhere.

If there is gators in there, they'd move immediately on the blood. In a rollover you are likely bleeding from somewhere even if just the nose, or debris like garage door openers slicing your face. Even without blood, that kind of vibration disturbance is going to get attention fast, even from gators not already in the water. Gators from hundreds of feet out might start mobilizing if the marsh is in their usual territory. A gators whole life is about waiting to feel something happen.

I'd figure he was wrecked from the crash and died peacefully-- and I'd rest on that. He may have already dozed off a little before the crash. So not even an "oh fuck" adrenaline moment of fear and regret. WIthout being belted in, he would get knocked out.

Very unlikely he was in a desperate fight for his life while gators swarmed him.