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Barbosa Knee

Death of Cheezits

jayrebb said:

Vitor's physique looks a little less corroded than last year. Hoping its a sign that this will actually be competitive.

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Lol he even lost his jaw muscles.

Those before TRT cheezits & after TRT cheezits.

Silva called out Bisping and Diaz again.

Grimmlokk said:

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Note to self: get on that TRT train when I'm old

Ameraves said:

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2 inexperienced strikers. Vasquez is pressing forward, poor footwork and choice of punches leads to him being off balance and throwing a jab? after over extending and missing. Knowing he is coming forward and over extending, Cazarez chooses to counter with the right, instead of a left hook which would have connected first leaving his head out of the way / rolling with the punch so any damage would have been minimal whilst still landing the KO punch.

Captain Suave said:

Lol he even lost his jaw muscles.

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More than that. Apparently, if you block his lower face, he's got that look in his eye. The kind of look that they created a certain hotline for...

I give him props for trying but damn he looks more than unhealthy. Losing that type of skull mass and that overall feminized facial structure and rapidly aged body cannot be healthy in any way. Bring back TUE's or deny former TRT users a license to fight. Shits sad.

jayrebb said:

that overall feminized facial structure

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lol wut

Man, that Brazilian card had some awesome finishes!

Granted, Gastelum was fighting a guy like twice his age and Vitor has been as many wars as anyone, but Kelvin didn't flinch when Vitor started winging those hay-makers at him. Gastelum might be on the same track as Anthony Johnson, where he was forced to go up in weight and his career takes off. He has improved so much, even since the days of winning TUF.

Jive Turkey said:

lol wut

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just off the top of my head only taking 1 second of my time: chin loss, jaw loss, deep-set eyes loss (major male trait linked to male virility and attractiveness in the face to a woman). overall loss of bone density via osteoporosis from lack of hormones in his body, further feminizing.

general skull mass loss. guys done

Besides his jaw, I'm not sure how you're reading that much into it from one low resolution picture. Especially considering the first picture is a higher contrast lighting scenario. The colour temperature of the first shot is also contributing to the general sense of him looking "healthier". I agree he obviously looks more muscular in the first shot, but you're making a bit of a stretch with the "feminized facial structure" business.

Jive Turkey said:

Besides his jaw, I'm not sure how you're reading that much into it from one low resolution picture. Especially considering the first picture is a higher contrast lighting scenario. The colour temperature of the first shot is also contributing to the general sense of him looking "healthier". I agree he obviously looks more muscular in the first shot, but you're making a bit of a stretch with the "feminized facial structure" business.

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Posture. Collarbone skew. Look at the first one. Its perfect posture, no hint of collarbone skew. You can plainly see it straight across.

Granted in this case, it was probably excessive structure from the anabolic abuse. And you're right, he has mostly just lost his abused size. But once you come off that stuff, there is not a return to normal testosterone levels that you had. You are basically sackless, producing below average testosterone levels for the rest of your life, Vitor already disclosed his struggle with this publicly the year he had to come off TRT. He wasn't happy about where his levels were at. Some guys fare better than others, but NOBODY is able to recover the natural testosterone level they had before taking endogenous hormones.

I don't think its as much of a stretch considering his estrogen is sky high, testosterone is low, and his obvious softening of appearance. Look at the skin quality difference on fight night, pictures aside. Its pathetic to let former TUE's compete as they have already aged into the sport. They should be grandfathered in. A TUE should have been a lifetime license, not an annual thing. Hypogonadism is not a condition subject to change year to year, its a lifetime diagnosis that is usually never rechecked on except to make sure the TRT is at an appropriate level. The TUE itself is not granted year-after-year. For comparison, a TRT prescription in the United States requires only 1 blood test, just one time, to qualify. The doc sees you annually, but there is no further blood work unless you ask for it.

I can take a blood test to anywhere in the USA, from 1999 from 2004, it doesn't matter. And the TRT clinic will make me sign a contract that says I am absolutely not receiving TRT from any other source, and that I give permission to release existing records from my previous TRT. They don't retest if the diagnosis has already been made. Makes sense. Apparently the wada USADA vada blada didnt give a shit about the health of these fighters.

You either have the condition that requires TRT or you don't. This was some dark ages decision-making, and ruined this guys career. TRT had to go, but it was wrong to treat existing TUE's this way.

I missed you, 'Rebb....

Could be worse. He's not missing a whole fucking pituitary gland.

Loss 19–11 (1) Ivan Shtyrkov Decision (unanimous) Titov Boxing Promotion: Shtyrkov vs. Silva November 18, 2016 3 5:00 Yekaterinburg, Russia
Loss 19–10 (1) Roy Nelson KO (punches) UFC Fight Night: Cyborg vs. Lansberg September 24, 2016 2 4:10 Brasília, Brazil
Loss 19–9 (1) Stefan Struve KO (elbows) UFC Fight Night: Overeem vs. Arlovski May 8, 2016 1 0:16 Rotterdam, Netherlands
Loss 19–8 (1) Mark Hunt TKO (punches) UFC 193 November 15, 2015 1 3:41 Melbourne, Australia
Loss 18–7 (1) Frank Mir KO (punch and elbows) UFC Fight Night: Bigfoot vs. Mir February 22, 2015 1 1:40 Porto Alegre, Brazil
Loss 18–6 (1) Andrei Arlovski KO (punches) UFC Fight Night: Bigfoot vs. Arlovski September 13, 2014 1 2:59 Brasília, Brazil
NC 18–5 (1) Mark Hunt NC (overturned) UFC Fight Night: Hunt vs. Bigfoot December 7, 2013 5 5:00 Brisbane, Australia Originally a majority draw; overturned after Silva tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone. Fight of the Night forfeited.
Loss 18–5 Cain Velasquez TKO (punches) UFC 160 May 25, 2013 1 1:21 Las Vegas, Nevada, United States For the UFC Heavyweight Championship.


The commission could have knifed that guy ides of march style before each fight at the checkpoint any nobody would ask any questions. Good lord they crucified him like Jesus.