Confederate - new anti-white propaganda from HBO

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wonder if they will have white slaves
and what about the other slave nations
US only had like 10% pre war.
dubai probably has more slave right now, than the south had.
 
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What if slavery still existed? They just brought the Libyan market back online. You can buy people right now in Africa, the middle east, and Asia. The democrats didn't lose everywhere.

I hope this doesn't get canceled. Trump 2020
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Before one of you idiots pages me in here making a bad joke...I think this is a silly idea. It will probably make a lot of money.
 
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Before one of you idiots pages me in here making a bad joke...I think this is a silly idea. It will probably make a lot of money.
when you're writing dialogue for the angry, American Inventor hating white characters, do you just copy and paste verbatim from the Politics thread?
 
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Before one of you idiots pages me in here making a bad joke...I think this is a silly idea. It will probably make a lot of money.


I think it could work if they show blacks owning slaves and whites being slaves. A world where slavery became accepted and might be interesting the same way I enjoy Man in the High Castle with the Nazi's winning. If it's just a bunch of bad white people then I'll pass.
 
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when you're writing dialogue for the angry, Obama-son hating white characters, do you just copy and paste verbatim from the Politics thread?
Nope. We source that shit direct from the tap.

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This place practically has racism-salmonella.

I think it could work if they show blacks owning slaves and whites being slaves. A world where slavery became accepted and might be interesting the same way I enjoy Man in the High Castle with the Nazi's winning. If it's just a bunch of bad white people then I'll pass.
It COULD. I mean, there are a ton of angles you might take with it. Blacks owning whites. Whites and blacks fleeing to the north via propaganda where they live in poverty and struggle to work jobs being outsourced to the south while blacks (and some whites) flee to the south and send money north to feed their starving families, the whites being persecuted as "race-traitors" by those in the north and mocked as "weak" by those in the south. Meanwhile no one cares about Mexicans at all...it depends on just how "World Changing" they want to make the world they create.

When I first heard about this show I thought it could be that and maybe they will go with of that. Who knows. Those are two very good dramatic writers who know how to engage an audience.

I think it will end up being North=Utopia and South=Dystopia.
 
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Nope. We source that shit direct from the tap.

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This place practically has racism-salmonella.

It COULD. I mean, there are a ton of angles you might take with it. Blacks owning whites. Whites and blacks fleeing to the north via propaganda where they live in poverty and struggle to work jobs being outsourced to the south while blacks (and some whites) flee to the south and send money north to feed their starving families, the whites being persecuted as "race-traitors" by those in the north and mocked as "weak" by those in the south. Meanwhile no one cares about Mexicans at all...it depends on just how "World Changing" they want to make the world they create.

When I first heard about this show I thought it could be that and maybe they will go with of that. Who knows. Those are two very good dramatic writers who know how to engage an audience.

I think it will end up being North=Utopia and South=Dystopia.

From reading about it seems to be set during the "Third Civil War". So I can see the setting being pretty "grimdark" for both places.

There are pretty interesting developments that could have happened as a result as well. From a historical perspective, The South would have needed massive support from Great Britain to stop the Norths industrial might. Does that mean that the North allied with Germany in World War 1? Could the North have become a fascist regime Did the South expand farther into Mexico? What become of the West?
 
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From reading about it seems to be set during the "Third Civil War". So I can see the setting being pretty "grimdark" for both places.
I hope it is. I talked about this with a TV writer much more experienced than me (Emmy winning) and he said it could be genius if it just removes race out of the equation completely and shows everyone being both bad and good in all aspects. Boil the shit down to simple human nature. Greed and survival etc etc etc.

We were speculating about the massive amount of hate that would be directed after the first episode opened showing a black "Southern" woman beating a white child "slave" and then cut to an ambiguously Indian (dots) Northman gleefully funding that exact beating through corporate policy in a boardroom filled with every possible race or gender.

Too bad no one in Hollywood has those kind of balls.
 

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I hope it is. I talked about this with a TV writer much more experienced than me (Emmy winning) and he said it could be genius if it just removes race out of the equation completely and shows everyone being both bad and good in all aspects. Boil the shit down to simple human nature. Greed and survival etc etc etc.

We were speculating about the massive amount of hate that would be directed after the first episode opened showing a black "Southern" woman beating a white child "slave" and then cut to an ambiguously Indian (dots) Northman gleefully funding that exact beating through corporate policy in a boardroom filled with every possible race or gender.

Too bad no one in Hollywood has those kind of balls.
Actually what you described sounds like a stupid over the top appeal to feels.
 

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Actually what you described sounds like a stupid over the top appeal to feels.
Well, I mean if you think being against slavery is "appeal to feels" then yeah...I guess it does sound like that. The point was, they COULD just come hard and offend everyone right out the gate because no matter what they do, SOMEONE is getting offended. Shit was only just announced and you have people getting offended on both sides. People screeching about "no black actors will be in this" and calling it "anti-white".

So either you go hard with picking who you are going to offend, or you try and get a bigger message across. The bad guy in the show should be "ignorance" rather than trying to parcel it out to particular groups of people.
 

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Well, I mean if you think being against slavery is "appeal to feels" then yeah...I guess it does sound like that. The point was, they COULD just come hard and offend everyone right out the gate because no matter what they do, SOMEONE is getting offended. Shit was only just announced and you have people getting offended on both sides. People screeching about "no black actors will be in this" and calling it "anti-white".

So either you go hard with picking who you are going to offend, or you try and get a bigger message across.
Still fucking stupid, when you can use a real world example of a modern conflict to convey an utter disregard for other's humanity.
 

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Still fucking stupid, when you can use a real world example of a modern conflict to convey an utter disregard for other's humanity.
Dude...it's fucking Hollywood. Not the goddamn U.N.

World building an alt-history story is a LOT more fun and freeform than another indie documentary with lots of shots of child soldiers killing and being killed in Africa that you and I both know, you will never watch.
 

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I hope it is. I talked about this with a TV writer much more experienced than me (Emmy winning) and he said it could be genius if it just removes race out of the equation completely and shows everyone being both bad and good in all aspects. Boil the shit down to simple human nature. Greed and survival etc etc etc.

We were speculating about the massive amount of hate that would be directed after the first episode opened showing a black "Southern" woman beating a white child "slave" and then cut to an ambiguously Indian (dots) Northman gleefully funding that exact beating through corporate policy in a boardroom filled with every possible race or gender.

Too bad no one in Hollywood has those kind of balls.

If anyone understands how to create a dystopian and interesting society, its B&W. Just apply Westeros principles to the United States. "Oh you think the North is a better place? Sorry its Rockefellerism gone insane." Workers are ground into pulp just like the slaves of the South, just under the illusion of freedom. European powers work to exploit the conflict for their own means.
 
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The man in the high castle does make me feel a bit uncomfortable. Not sure why, I could n't get behind that Alt-world.
Maybe this will be the same.
 
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I can almost guarantee both sides will be portrayed as having shitty aspects and good aspects.

Although I doubt slavery would have existed into the modern era as the old school slavery. An exploited underclass that is all but a slave in name would still be feasible, though.
 

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Dude...it's fucking Hollywood. Not the goddamn U.N.

World building an alt-history story is a LOT more fun and freeform than another indie documentary with lots of shots of child soldiers killing and being killed in Africa that you and I both know, you will never watch.
What, Beasts of No Nation is amazing. Watched it a few times
 

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What, Beasts of No Nation is amazing. Watched it a few times
Yes, yes it is. Point is, just the announcement already has people all riled up (look at the thread title) and then the lings keg provided. So either you own that SJW shit HARD (they won't), or you go sideways with it.
 

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opening scene:

a black woman is running in a field, at night in the fog, her clothes are torn and she is scared. You can hear dogs barking in the background.
A young, white, well dressed man approaches her.

him: Why did you run, Shaniqua? I was all ready to bring you into my household and love you.
her: I didn't choose to be with you! You forced yourself on to me when we were 14 and you asked me to the autumn ball! I want to run away to where my people are, where I can marry who I want.
him: But... but... I love you, Shaniqua! I'll give you anything! I'll leave my wife and marry you! You can have sex with anyone, I just want to watch!
her: Oh Adolf, you make me happy but I need more in my life. I need to know my heritage, I need to live in a society that does not suffer from the patriarchy.
him: Go then! But you'll regret it. People here lie about what life in the confederacy is like. Sure, we have no free healthcare or welfare or social security and women don't get equal pay, but at least you are free. You'll find out, things could be worse!

Shaniqua crosses the border, and approaches the confederacy guards.
"I'd like to claim asylum as a northern, proud, independent black woman."
guards: Oh, we'll take care of you all right, you uppity Kang SOUND CUTS OFF

fade to black, CONFEDERACY
 
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