Which would have happened even if he was a bastard and not the first born male. Could have even be written in as they just liked him because he's a pretty chill dude.
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Bro, I dont think anyone is arguing that. The annulment thing was just a plot twist to lay down the groundwork for bloodline succession conflict later on between Jon and Dany on some deep, internal or external level. Obviously you just need 50% blood of the dragon to have the ability of gaining a dragons trust. I dont think anyone would ever try to make an argument that only true firstborns can tame dragons lol.
edit: Also, think of it. They still have an ace in the hole with Tyrion, as Bran could potentially somehow see The Mad King tapping Tywins wifes ass, impregnating her with Tyrion, and maybe reveal that knowledge.
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If the fact that Cersei and Jaime gets back in the sack together in the middle of previous episode and she's already diagnosed as pregnant this one tells you that weeks and months happens between scenes, probably nothing will.
I think it was a popular theory last season that, until NK-marked Bran went under the Wall, no undead could cross. The magic is now weakening, and their first breach is found, time to move there.
Or something, something, no hurry, silly humans can't do anything anyway.
Yeah is Tyrion going to be revealed as a targ next? He had just as much of a bond as Jon did.
It's just such a stupid part of the entire thing.
I am less concerned about that though and all of this "well if the wedding was annulled Jon is the rightful heir". Who gives a shit. Who gives a shit about Gendry being an heir, he is just a regular man at this point and no blood in his veins is going to help him get a throne.
It's just such a stupid part of the entire thing.
I am less concerned about that though and all of this "well if the wedding was annulled Jon is the rightful heir". Who gives a shit. Who gives a shit about Gendry being an heir, he is just a regular man at this point and no blood in his veins is going to help him get a throne.
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Ukerric
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Yea, we know GRRM shared about 3 key scenes he has planned, and we know the Hold The Door was the first one, so we should get the 2nd one sometime soon (hopefully this season). Assuming the wight-grabbing party is that occasion makes sense given than the previous also involved the undead.
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I've said for awhile that Tywin was actually pissed off that Tyrion was a Targ bastard and so killed his wife rather than admit the shame of being cuckolded like that.
He's probably the illegitimate son of King Aemon, which brings balance to the whole original discussion between him and Jon Snow back in the first book.
He's probably the illegitimate son of King Aemon, which brings balance to the whole original discussion between him and Jon Snow back in the first book.
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It still puts a monkeywrench into the "I am the one and only rightful queen of the seven kingdoms" narrative. She can still be the Conquering Queen, but the Legitimate one is out of reach now. A bit of an ego blow.
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Jon will bring back a white to Cersei and offer it as an engagement zombie. They will marry and he will steal one of the dragons and defeat Daenerys.
@Screamfeeder let them know I'm ready to start writing some episodes.
@Screamfeeder let them know I'm ready to start writing some episodes.
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Some people don't like this theory because it's too Targ centric. Like the ASOIAF story would then essentially be a Targ story.
Personally I think it makes sense.
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Well, so far, only 3 people seem to have interacted with mature dragons without them doing burninator moves. Daenerys, Jon, Tyrion (who, coincidentally, has a couple of theories about being also a Targ bastard from Aegon himself).
(ok, didn't Missandei play and feed stuff to the dragons back when they were small? Or am I misremembering S2?)
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No that was the actually hot handmaiden that sold danny out in Tarth or whatever and she threw into the empty vault with her BBC
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Also, SireCeee the non-velieen of the show - being preggers imo put its her on a 9 month clock for death. This is obviously a GRRM note- I do not think the show runners would have made that type of choice for character happenings without it being a noted point in the outlines by GRRM
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Anyone else think that scene was just kind of thrown in randomly? It didn't have very much flow with either the scenes before or after it.
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Arya gonna' stab her in the baby bump, Rob's wife-style(I don't remember that chick's name).
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The rightful heir thing is dumb because the entire show is about how the rightful heir is whoever can fucking take the damn Throne.
Aegon Targaryen? Took the throne via dragonfire and made the Seven Kingdoms because fuck you. Robert Baratheon? Usurped the throne from the Mad King.
Cersei? Her only claim to the throne was being married to Robert if you want to get technical. Her children had no right to it. Stannis Baratheon was the true legal heir to the throne. Not that it did him any good.
Jon has less ability to take the throne than any of them.
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But it wont kill her... she will crawl into Jamie's arms and lament their dead child...she will say "she couldn't have gotten out of the city...yet...I will kill her yet!" you see Oberyn or whatever, shuffeling off with a jar of wildfire or something to trigger Jamie's PTSD of the Mad King and realize that NOT THE BAD GUY MIND YOU, but a LOVING AND CARING MOTHER FIGURE is going to blow up the entirety of Kings Landing - he kills sir sea and then stops Oberyn in the nick of time (OR DOES HE)
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Cersei and Jaime aren't even speaking to each other in the books, he burns the letter requesting him as her champion during her imprisonment. I highly doubt she's pregnant in the books, or even in the show. Either way she won't be delivering a child I can guarantee that. This is just another reason for Jaime to be a cuckold as they continue to ruin his characterization.
Benjen will definitely show up next episode, I'm just not sure how they're going to survive that swarm of wights, aside from... well, if she shows up and roasts everything sure.
Also LOL at the Night King forcing Bran out of warging.
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