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velk

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In my opinion trying to set up class order halls for gold generation is not worth it. Especially if you don't have a huge stable of Blood of Sargeras from playing for a while (which is the only reasonable way to keep the order halls going unless you actually want to do an emissary on every one of those characters every day or two).

The time spent setting them up would be better served to just farming on one of your characters or learning TSM to play the auction house (which will serve you in future expansions as well).

It's not worth leveling characters solely for this purpose, but if you have alts, you are kind of crazy not to. The gold per time spent actually doing stuff is literally unbeatable by anything except being unbelievably lucky with AH flips. Remember you can fire this shit off from your mobile while traveling or watching tv or whatever. For me, 12 chars produce roughly 75k per day for 10 minutes of work on the train.

On the consistency front, maxxed out order hall characters are self sufficient in order resources on average - assuming you just do gold and blood, the blood missions spawn frequently enough to cover all costs in the long run. ( You probably want about a 20K buffer to save you from having to log in frequently to sell bloods ).
 

Palum

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Man the more I think about it the more I'm pissed about these allied races.

Alliance:
Dwarven inventors that haven't been relevant since classic.
Coked up, tatted down Draenei that keep DUIing their ship which number in the dozens and have shitty racials that require you to die.
Shadow priest elves with acne and shingles that literally aren't even a thing.

Horde:
Reskinned Tauren we just had an entire zone about with cool antlers and bomb ass racials.
Entirely new elf culture that was a central part of Legion and is a close remnant of the old highborne with tons of cool lore.
New trolls with their own fucking empire and half the new expansion revolving around them.

Fucking alliance get shafted again.
 
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Man the more I think about it the more I'm pissed about these allied races.

Alliance:
Dwarven inventors that haven't been relevant since classic.
Coked up, tatted down Draenei that keep DUIing their ship which number in the dozens and have shitty racials that require you to die.
Shadow priest elves with acne and shingles that literally aren't even a thing.

Horde:
Reskinned Tauren we just had an entire zone about with cool antlers and bomb ass racials.
Entirely new elf culture that was a central part of Legion and is a close remnant of the old highborne with tons of cool lore.
New trolls with their own fucking empire and half the new expansion revolving around them.

Fucking alliance get shafted again.

That is because Alliance are nothing but trash faggots.. How many times does it need to be said before it sinks in for you guys.

 
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Noodleface

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Let me tell y'all mothafuckas when corpsegrinder says you're a faggot that's because you are

Honestly though he's a super nice dude in real life and he likes shopping for deals at Target (don't believe me? YouTube corpsegrinder at Target)

Since we didn't do mythic, once we got heroic on farm we did one raid day as a world tour day for the last couple months. We did EN/TOV/NH Normal and Heroic of each. Took about 3 hours and cleared everything give or take a few bosses like botanist. I think we got something in the order of 20ish legendaries, maybe more, throughout the runs. Also I felt it kept some of the guild members from being too bored. Glad it's over for awhile because honestly the 3 hour gauntlet was exhausting, but I'm also glad we did it
 
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Sumdain x

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thats awesome, it looks like everyone died at the exact right time to give the DK about 20-30seconds of interrupted dps. at the spot the last folks died was right before visions, so he had about 8 seconds of cast time to dps, then there is a bursting dreadflame, followed by a 6-7 second tear rift cast, after that is a set of 5 felclaws and since he didn't have any stacks it was just about hitting rune tap at the right time. i think most tanks could have solo'd that last 3% at that point but its still impressive that it lined up like that, and that he didn't panic.

Has anyone looked a the set bonus's for Monk BrM's? 2 set bonus is BoF gives us 2 stacks of elusive brawler (elusive brawler gives our mastery is dodge% until we dodge an attack, that stacks, it is triggered by several abilities.) most monks have between 25-35% mastery (some a little higher) so with the rotation with the 2 piece we get 90% dodge in 1.5 seconds if we have 30% mastery. not counting if we already have any stacks (my dodge has been up to 300+% before, but its all lost with a single dodge). so far this bonus seems very lack luster, its basically an extra 30% dodge every 7ish seconds for 1 attack.

the 4 piece bonus is after every dodge we reduce the cooldown on Breathe of fire by 1 second...this is literally the worst tier4 benefit in the game hands down. even tanking in an aoe situation with 3-5 mobs you wont dodge enough (with a 1 second internal cooldown) to every bring the breathe of fire cooldown (15 seconds base) into a usable amount. especially since keg smash which is on a roughly 7 second cooldown resets its automatically with the legendary chest. i honestly dont know what they are thinking with this. breath of fire going off every dodge was too OP for M+ supposedly but i dont understand this change at all and hope blizzard looks into it. its laughable in its current state and most BrM's are going to be running ilevel gear over tier set, i refuse to farm T20 titanforges.

when blizzard was testing monk changes they tested a talent called spitfire which made keg smash have a chance to reset the cooldown on breath, that would be a better bonus and synergize with shoulders for dps, and allow us to swap out a legendary for a different one in certain situations.
 

Noodleface

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I have the legendary tunic and the 4pc makes no goddamn fucking sense. It's evident none of them play monks they're because they jam in the most retarded fucking changes. I'm glad I stopped maining monk because they have no idea what they're doing


The 3 hour gauntlet is fun, but by exhausting I mean we're basically moving nonstop the entire 3 hours to hit every boss.
 
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Not much better on the Windwalker side. Dumped the monk for ranged dps. Monk is really fun but fucked up 5 ways past a string out whore. No direction and clueless people working on it.

And by people I mean the intern they assigned the class to.
 
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Sumdain x

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i absolutely love tanking on Monk, i dont really have any issues with the recent changes pre-ToS other than several why? questions. most things were fine and just were reworked for no reason, looking at you Blackout strike. things like the max stagger cap is fine (lol at them originally setting it at 200% of max health, which made zero sense). they just changed the class "for the feels".

Maybe ill just play my bear, we'll see how antorus goes on heroic tonight.

also lol at whatever blizz dev made the prot war set....bis for prot atm is 4pc t20, 2pc 21 lawl.
 

Noodleface

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i absolutely love tanking on Monk, i dont really have any issues with the recent changes pre-ToS other than several why? questions. most things were fine and just were reworked for no reason, looking at you Blackout strike. things like the max stagger cap is fine (lol at them originally setting it at 200% of max health, which made zero sense). they just changed the class "for the feels".

Maybe ill just play my bear, we'll see how antorus goes on heroic tonight.

also lol at whatever blizz dev made the prot war set....bis for prot atm is 4pc t20, 2pc 21 lawl.
I still think monk is the most fun tank to play and requires a little thought and planning to your brews but I don't understand why they had to reinvent the class right before tos. Don't get me wrong, it's still fun, but it felt very fluid before. I get why they thought they needed to change isb max uptime, but it's dumb essentially staring at a counter waiting until you next pop a brew so you don't go over 24s. I thought the stagger cap fix would've fixed every complaint people had against brm, so why they changed everything else I don't know.

It's just really discouraging playing a class that they clearly don't care about, while having some blue haired faggot tablet user making the fantasy. For just once I wish they'd listen. I didn't abandon the class, but it's my alt now. Which is a shame, because playing brm was what saved me from quitting this expansion. Warrior was my first, and what they did to them is equally retarded (hi plz pick between dps or 25% hp).

I've been gearing my blood dk and right now it feels like the tank class that feels just about right. Not super op, although definitely top tier.

Whoever is sucking dick for druids to remain the top at blizzard deserves a promotion.
 

McCheese

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Alliance might get shafted on the new races, but at least they don't have to deal with every damn quest hub being a loose collection of shitty shacks, random spikes, and filthy hovels.

I'm in favor of the undead taking over the horde just so we get some actual fucking buildings.
 
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McCheese

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I know there isn't any other important thing going on in WoW this week, so make sure you take advantage of pet battle week! Do the pet battle quest to get a stone to level one up to 25 instantly. Also, if you do archaeology you can get Wyrmy Tunkins this week. He's a pretty solid pet.
 
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Narac01

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McCheese, do you know of a good guide for pet battles? I randomly have some ok pets, but I can't do anything that's special (celestial thing on timeless isle, the wailing caverns thing etc).
 

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I don't get why they didn't do the obvious with the rest of the Allied Races, as they are doing with Nightborne/Void Elf.

Void Elf = Alliance - so now Ally has a Blood Elf look alike race to pick from.
Nightborne = Horde - so now Horde has a Night Elf look alike race to pick from.

Why the fuck not do the same with Lightborne Draenei/Highmountain Tauren/Zanda Trolls/Dark Iron Dwarves to give the other side a chance to have one of those playable races? I mean, lore-wise it would be a fucking mess, but what isn't a mess lore-wise already in this game? lol
 

BoozeCube

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As neat as the idea of these new sub races are, or "allied races" because bliz loves semantic bullshit. I feel like they are going about it in a bad way. It's cool that they are adding 6 new character slots per server because of them, but are they just gonna keep adding new slots as they add new races?
 

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I don't get why they didn't do the obvious with the rest of the Allied Races, as they are doing with Nightborne/Void Elf.

Void Elf = Alliance - so now Ally has a Blood Elf look alike race to pick from.
Nightborne = Horde - so now Horde has a Night Elf look alike race to pick from.

Why the fuck not do the same with Lightborne Draenei/Highmountain Tauren/Zanda Trolls/Dark Iron Dwarves to give the other side a chance to have one of those playable races? I mean, lore-wise it would be a fucking mess, but what isn't a mess lore-wise already in this game? lol
People are such boners about eliminating faction boundaries in a game built upon the very idea that two factions are in perpetual wat.

If you want to be a dick lick you gotta play with the pansies, make sure you pick herbalism too