Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)

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I get that, I just walked out thinking the movie was 3/10.

It has an audience score of 52%. The 92% is the critics score, and who gives a shit about that?
 
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A 60% drop would be right in line with R1 which had Christmas Eve, historically one of the worst movie attendance days of the year, land right in the middle of that weekend. But it also included Christmas Day, one of the stronger attendance dates, to then offset that. That's not the case this year. It's also worth noting that the box office tracking predictions you see out there for this weekend aren't sourced from the same group that all of the entertainment media cites figures from for the rest of the year. comScore doesn't even put Christmas week figures out in advance because historically the figures for that week are so uneven, specifically the lead up/final shopping days for the holiday itself. These figures you're seeing are being tabulated by the individual publications themselves.

But to an extent none of that matters. The dissatisfied fans may be a minority but there are enough of them, and Star Wars fans in general, to make all of those "The Last Jedi is dying at the box office" stories very attractive headlines for websites to run stories on. Lucasfilm's problem then starts to look an awful lot like WB's with it's DC movies. A narrative of failure starts to take hold and the casual movie goers start to assume the movie is bad based purely on the number of headlines they're seeing indicating that it even might be, regardless of what the majority of people who have seen it think of it.
That echoes my concern. Really wanted Force Awakens and Last Jedi to succeed commercially and artistically. Wanted there to be a valid reason for continuing the saga, launching anthology films. For Star Wars to genuinely evolve beyond cheap nostalgia and strengthen its legacy, not limp along for the foreseeable future. I've no grief for a cash printing brand made for children, same as it was when we were young and was never meant for old cranks, yet I don't sense real heart behind these new projects.

None of this vocal disapproval though, whether trite or justified, will affect me judging the movie for myself.

First thing to determine when thinking critically as opposed to an emotional reaction is what are saga films supposed to accomplish. Most people want them to be exciting, inventive, take chances while keeping the tone of Star Wars, keeping the particular quality of its universe. Being tonally integrated so they fit together as one tale with nine chapters, more or less.

7/10. Wasn't great but much better than the prequels and in some ways better than TFA. Don't give a shit about acne four eyed mouth breathing like no oxygen in space for Leia or how did Rey get so good without training, Luke was a hero GODDAMMIT or why did the guards all have different weapons. I don't give a shit. The prequels and their blandness is where fan entitlement and nerdrage began, which is a pity. I've no problem with Luke. His character development is good. Rey and Kylo also good. The movie is not badass/powerful enough. A few sloppy jokes but mostly not bad. Pacing also good. No problems with Leia, the poppins bit looks alright. It wasn't how it looked. Leia using the force was fine, the dumb shit was flying Neo-like jedis. Doesn't matter provided it's not recurring. The movie is severely predictable. Ancillary characters are not unlikable but are indistinct. They do nothing but serve plot. Finn did nothing worthwhile. Oh wait, Finn killed Kenny defeated Phasma. Right. Rose did nothing worthwhile. Laura Dern was forgettable. Poe is the only one who stood out in the slightest. Biggest issue is not having a premeditated outline for all three films. The ending was handled poorly. That meta shit with the action figure, the broom and the kid resembled Clark Kent as a boy wearing a red towel near the end of Man of Steel. Same kind of meta message hot fucking trash.

ESB
ANH
ROTJ
TLJ
TFA
R1
AOTC
ROTS
TPM

Eat a dick whoever disagrees.
 
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Umm no.

ESB > ANH > ROTJ > R1 > Prequels in any order > Shit on a stick > Flaming bag of dog shit > 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8
 
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I just watched Rogue One last night. That was an actual Star Wars movie. Anyone putting TFA, TLJ or any of the prequels before it must have a twisted sense of humor.

God, TLJ is such a bad movie. It's so fucking bad.
 
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Yeah i wanna join in and say it wasn't that good. No need to go into too many details, the script was horrible.The dialogue is still bad despite being better then the prequels. Why are most good TV shows written better then the average Hollywood blockbuster? Do any of you work in the film industry, please shed some light on the matter. They had so many years and so many people involved and this is the best they can come up with?

Anyhow, the one specific i will mention is the Kylo and Rey relationship. Could have saved the whole movie, instead it was just a tease.
The flashbacks to the Luke vs Kylo moment were also a tease.It should have been a whole montage about their relationship and hopefully a few scenes of the Jedi academy and the other students. What a waste.
 
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Just watched.
What a turd. Thank's SJW's.

Will never go see another one of these films in theater, I can not support where they have taken this.

Just garbage.
 
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TLJ is like Batman & Robin bad. They tried to make a campy movie, and just created a wtf is this pos, half assed, try hard, kick your mother in the dick, question your gender, fuck you sister in the ass, blasphemous film that should feel ashamed to carry the Star Wars label.

I enjoyed it like a proctologist stimulating my prostate. That's a perfect analogy, actually.
 
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Fuck me running....Watch the video at your own peril (can't embed from their site)....

'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' scene causes movie theaters to post warning

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I guess the Michael Bay mouth-breathing retards can't understand that you might not have the boom, booms and the bang, bangs while shit explodes.
 
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This is what happens when you bring your girl into the guild and give her O-tag, or when your bring her to the forums and make her a mod.


The ultimate female power trip was not to put every male lead on a leash to a female, no, no no, it was to take control of the Star Wars series and run it face first into the ground.

I'm glad I've always been a casual fan.
 
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This is what happens when you bring your girl into the guild and give her O-tag, or when your bring her to the forums and make her a mod.


The ultimate female power trip was not to put every male lead on a leash to a female, no, no no, it was to take control of the Star Wars series and run it face first into the ground.

I'm glad I've always been a casual fan.


Lol true, but they also can't help but make everything a female lead power trip... so they crash it into the ground via female leads- thus ultimately trolling themselves.
 
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What it should be a warning for is how dumb that scene is since she could have just used a droid instead of piloting it herself. Or what would happen if an object the mass of a ship impacted another object of similar size at relativistic velocity.

I'll reiterate, C3PO heard the plan and silently walked the fuck away. I don't know if you'd be able to convince a Droid to follow through with a plan that stupid.
 
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Lol true, but they also can't help but make everything a female lead power trip... so they crash it into the ground via female leads- thus ultimately trolling themselves.

Well here's the counter point:

"Now more girls will be into Star Wars!"

But we know that's not true, most girls are more concerned with Frozen 2 or the next Twilight, all the they did is polarize the demographic, one of the biggest money making demographics that exists, for a power move.

But there is a legitimate following of female fans, who are serious Star Wars nerds, and they saw the same movie we did and realize that wasn't even a Star Wars movie, and that the franchise is over.
 
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Well here's the counter point:

"Now more girls will be into Star Wars!"

But we know that's not true, most girls are more concerned with Frozen 2 or the next Twilight, all the they did is polarize the demographic, one of the biggest money making demographics that exists, for a power move.

But there is a legitimate following of female fans, who are serious Star Wars nerds, and they saw the same movie we did and realize that wasn't even a Star Wars movie, and that the franchise is over.

True.. SJWs think that "girls like X" and "boys like Y" and girls should like Y also! It's a damn social construct that keep girls from liking Y!!!

And it's not... its called "life" and "how things are" and they keep trying for force things and it never works. Like GIRLS IN STEM!!!!
 
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All you muppets complaining about lightspeed physics in these movies need to give their heads a shake. Travelling at lightspeed ALREADY poses a universe breaking suspension of disbelief because everyone would age at inconsistent rates at best and would arrive at their destinations in the far distant future at worst. Sort your autism out
 
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True.. SJWs think that "girls like X" and "boys like Y" and girls should like Y also! It's a damn social construct that keep girls from liking Y!!!

And it's not... its called "life" and "how things are" and they keep trying for force things and it never works. Like GIRLS IN STEM!!!!

What do you mean STEM, shitlord.

Haven't you heard? We're using STEAM now! (A is for Arts)
 
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