Royal
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Yeah I've seen the light on action remark made frequently enough to see that being the case.
That could also impact it's numbers in China, beyond the racial considerations.
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Black Panther (2018)
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Yeah I've seen the light on action remark made frequently enough to see that being the case.
That could also impact it's numbers in China, beyond the racial considerations.
Xarpolis
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I certainly don't plan on watching it again.
I'm a little torn though. I have a collection of EVERY Marvel movie in the highest quality blu-ray I can purchase. I feel like I'm obligated to purchase this one as well, but at the same time... I just don't want it. FML.
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Lithose
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Was disappointing only because there was SO much hype around it, and it ended up being a pretty decent Marvel opener, but nothing like their "big group" (Avengers, GoTG1-2, Winter Soldier, Ragnarok, Civil War). If Civil War and GoTG2 are at the very bottom edge of that range, then I'd put BP right under them, with other strong openers like First Avenger, Strange and Ant-Man. Certainly good, but I was expecting Ragnarok, and it just isn't. (Which is probably a bad expectation because an origin story is difficult to do that with.)
Some problems? As others have said, the CGI was just...not great. It was weird. Iron Man from a decade ago looked much better. As did Spider-Man recently, and I know many shots were full CGI in both. Clearly they don't have issues with full CGI. I was wondering if it had something to do with the suit being a single color and all black? The "uncanny" valley shit really seemed to pop out.
Other than that, the only issue is the same problem Thor has..Where stuff just seems so odd that I wanted to see more of it so they could explain it. Like Thor, with the advanced civilization using boats as combat aircraft--it's just so weird and silly that unless the rest of the movie is ALSO weird and silly (And the first Thor didn't play it that way), the very strange shit like is a sore thumb. Again, not because its bad, but just because its frustrating not having it explained. There is *a lot* of that in this film, even for a Comic book movie--but as said, exact same issue with Thor, which I guess is a side effect of having the entire origin be alien.
Any case, decent film. Solid B tier, as others have said. Not close to the ecstatic reviews its getting in some places, which are clearly agenda bullshit. But its a very entertaining, good film. Felt like I got my money's worth, and I won't mind buying it for the collection.
Some problems? As others have said, the CGI was just...not great. It was weird. Iron Man from a decade ago looked much better. As did Spider-Man recently, and I know many shots were full CGI in both. Clearly they don't have issues with full CGI. I was wondering if it had something to do with the suit being a single color and all black? The "uncanny" valley shit really seemed to pop out.
Other than that, the only issue is the same problem Thor has..Where stuff just seems so odd that I wanted to see more of it so they could explain it. Like Thor, with the advanced civilization using boats as combat aircraft--it's just so weird and silly that unless the rest of the movie is ALSO weird and silly (And the first Thor didn't play it that way), the very strange shit like is a sore thumb. Again, not because its bad, but just because its frustrating not having it explained. There is *a lot* of that in this film, even for a Comic book movie--but as said, exact same issue with Thor, which I guess is a side effect of having the entire origin be alien.
Any case, decent film. Solid B tier, as others have said. Not close to the ecstatic reviews its getting in some places, which are clearly agenda bullshit. But its a very entertaining, good film. Felt like I got my money's worth, and I won't mind buying it for the collection.
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So...normal? I'm pretty sure the only movies I saw more than once in the theater were Jurassic Park, Terminator 2, Hellboy 2, Avatar, The Matrix, and The Incredibles.
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Titan_Atlas
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I think it was the record low unemployment, money to spend on movies. Vote Republican MAGA.
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a c i d.f l y
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I just had a realization and I'm wondering if this bothers anyone else...but, vibranium can rust? What the fuck?
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I think that repeat viewing with friends is actually popular for other movies and boosts the numbers in the week after opening day.
I thought about that also but thought that it was just a crust over it that nobody wanted to scrape off.
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Only when the movie is awesome do I ever encourage going to see a movie again with friends who haven't seen it. I absolutely would not do so with this movie.
Regarding the vibranium hammer, modern tech was required to shape it into a "frisbee", yet they were able to mold it into a spike hammer with what, vibranium hammers? What's the melting point of vibranium? It took Vision, Thor, and Ironman blasting Ultron together in a glorious care bear stare to melt his face. What was our ability to reach super heated temperatures to mold iron 7000 years ago? Nonexistent since that didn't happen until 3000 BC. Obviously I'm being pedantic about a comic book movie's tech over one detail, but it was a critical detail that fueled the first half of this film...
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Muligan
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Watched this today. I enjoyed it. I feel like it had a more serious tone almost more of a drama than action flick. Did have some great action moments but the high point of the movie for me was the unraveling of the story and character development. May have been where I am not as familiar with the Black Panther story but it's definitely worth a watch. It's not like an Avengers movie where stuff is getting blowed up and destroyed every 15 minutes. There's some time between action and it's good stuff.
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Vulg
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I'm really curious to see how it'll play in China. I don't think it'll bomb like TLJ, which had objectively bad writing and character development. Nerds can argue about the decisions that were made in terms of story direction, but take away canon/lore and it's still a mess of a movie on top of being confusing if you're not vested in the history of the franchise (eg. Luke is closer to an impotent old man drinking the tit juice of space cows than a powerful master).
Black Panther has a pretty self-contained story, a plot that progresses, a great antagonist and interesting characters (BP himself may have been one of the more boring ones in the film).
The F&F franchise plays well there, despite its blackness. Any hoops head will know that NBA re-treads like Stephon Marbury become very popular (and commercially successful) gods over there.
I'm not sure it'll hold its gate as well as it will in NA, but I don't think you'll see a ~90% drop in week 2 in that market like we did with TLJ, which was a shitpile for a variety of reasons.
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It tried too hard to be a serious movie, so it seemed like a conflict of interest overall. Drama, ehhhh... Sure. But a movie called Black Panther his character was sidelined overall, unfortunately.
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This movie wasn't anywhere near a shit house, vomiting on everything, or an unwanted finger in the ass like TLJ, but it just wasn't great, either. It's watchable and enjoyable, but it could have been a 90 minute flick, which contradicts my thoughts about how well it did world building. But after what they did for Ragnarok, this film fell far short...
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Funny thing is that most of their contextual complaints are source material.
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Man, I unfollowed Wil Wheaton on Facebook for calling this movie "flawless" and giving it a 5/5. What a fucking white apologist, and of course doing his best to avoid the online political backlash of having anything negative to say. The dude has no balls, on top of perpetuating the click bait culture.
This bothers me at a fundamental level.
But not on the same level as the gay community lambasting the film for having no representation in the film. Like, my fucking God.
Fuck this planet.
This bothers me at a fundamental level.
But not on the same level as the gay community lambasting the film for having no representation in the film. Like, my fucking God.
Fuck this planet.
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Royal
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It's something that can only be guessed at for any movie because there's no data compiled on the practice. It's one of the things that Moviepass could provide some insight on if it's subscriber base grew large enough and it manages to survive (though it also encourages the practice in the process).
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Brahma
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Yeah. They need Disney over there. Those are all B movies.
And they probably need Jesus. While we at it. Send in the Trump.
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As a matter of point
As a matter of fact, there are quite a bit of Christens in China
Christianity in China - Wikipedia
As a matter of fact, there are quite a bit of Christens in China
Christianity in China - Wikipedia
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Royal
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Disney won't do them any good and frankly I'd rather they not even try. China's movie preferences are about 20 years behind where they're at here currently. The sorts of movies that would have done well here in the 90's are what seem to break through over there.
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