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For every one of the fallen a victor shall rise

 
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Trex is gonna kill you if that's another girl in your room!

The elf is the other person. It sits right obtop of you as you move around.

its basically this:


Im retooling it
 
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I just finished up an interview with website owner a_skeleton_03 of Firesofheaven.org. This hardcore raiding community that bashed all sorts of heads in with classic Everquest and on to WoW! These guys are hard! When I hang in the FOH precense I feel I am 10ft tall- bulletproof, hung well and can for some reason I think I can play MMO's

 
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tyen

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dudes, this Unity-Tensorflow shit is really going to blow all of your fucking minds.

The level of machine learning avail this past year is fucking insane.

We are going to have AI that learn that everyone is using Cheal rotations and to kill those dickheads first when they start casting it (for example).

NPCs are going to learn strats and counter them, on a gamewide scale. VERY easily
 
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dudes, this Unity-Tensorflow shit is really going to blow all of your fucking minds.

The level of machine learning avail this past year is fucking insane.

We are going to have AI that learn that everyone is using Cheal rotations and to kill those dickheads first when they start casting it (for example).

NPCs are going to learn strats and counter them, on a gamewide scale. VERY easily

Sounds like Storybricks. Good thing that worked out for EQ Next.


Are you saying Pantheon is taking donations for early access to podcasts? And this is a separate donation tier from early game access?
 
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tyen

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Sounds like Storybricks. Good thing that worked out for EQ Next.

Machine learning is taking HUGE strides right now. Really fucking fast. With Watson and Tensorflow in Unity, you can build some real NPC AI real fucking easy.

Basically in Unity, you can build a model where the computer learns how to solve problems on its own. If it's not to die in a 4v4, you are gonna see some fucking crazy shit.

Tellin you brew, we are gonna see some real deal shit within 5 years, guaranteed.

"Beat the computer" is going to be really different in battle royale enviros.
 

tyen

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There is a major computer evolution going on right now where we are teaching computers how to learn and how to see.
 

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Machine learning is taking HUGE strides right now. Really fucking fast. With Watson and Tensorflow in Unity, you can build some real NPC AI real fucking easy.

Basically in Unity, you can build a model where the computer learns how to solve problems on its own. If it's not to die in a 4v4, you are gonna see some fucking crazy shit.

Tellin you brew, we are gonna see some real deal shit within 5 years, guaranteed.

"Beat the computer" is going to be really different now in battle royale enviros.

OK.

How does that fit into a game that's trying to be the spiritual successor to EQ/Vanguard?

This game is marketing itself to a 20 year old fanbase that wants 20 year old mechanics.

Pantheon isn't the type of game where Rallos Zek ignores your warriors, kills all your clerics, and then laughs when rangers try to heal as he wipes your raid mercilessly.
 
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Machine learning is taking HUGE strides right now. Really fucking fast. With Watson and Tensorflow in Unity, you can build some real NPC AI real fucking easy.

Basically in Unity, you can build a model where the computer learns how to solve problems on its own. If it's not to die in a 4v4, you are gonna see some fucking crazy shit.

Tellin you brew, we are gonna see some real deal shit within 5 years, guaranteed.

"Beat the computer" is going to be really different in battle royale enviros.

Are you really going to make me do my AI rant? sigh. Ok the short version.

Even the best 'deep learning' programs are still just brute forcing it. Mostly it's just a more refined recursive list ranking system and bayesian inference models. Bayesian models are useful but they literally provide zero insight or understanding into 'strong' AI. That's how the Google translation programs work, they can sort of match which sentences in one language is equivalent to one in another language - but they don't understand language (which is why the translations are almost never grammatically correct).

Until someone comes along and formulates the underlying principles for general intelligence, like Newton with physics or Darwin with biology, we're stuck using raw processing power.
 

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It brute forces and then builds a predictive propbability and tests those cases then you get the outcome.

So while it doesnt "know" 100% all the time, it has a probability model to work off of to achieve a goal based on the brute force or ongoing situation learning
 

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OK.

How does that fit into a game that's trying to be the spiritual successor to EQ/Vanguard?

This game is marketing itself to a 20 year old fanbase that wants 20 year old mechanics.

Pantheon isn't the type of game where Rallos Zek ignores your warriors, kills all your clerics, and then laughs when rangers try to heal as he wipes your raid mercilessly.

Yeah, I remember an interview some years back with one of the WoW raid designers. He basically said that yeah, they could easily make the bosses smart enough to rape your healers/DPS and ignore your tanks, but it would just result in a shitty game no one wanted to play.
 
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It brute forces and then builds a predictive propbability and tests those cases then you get the outcome.

So while it doesnt "know" 100% all the time, it has a probability model to work off of to achieve a goal based on the brute force or ongoing situation learning
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