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Springbok

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So I probably fucked up by not keeping Angelica/Sigret earlier.. haha. I also had a Destina/Dominiel pull as well last night but was shooting for a Sez or Ravi like some of the guides said. Cheers for the intel amigo
 

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So I probably fucked up by not keeping Angelica/Sigret earlier.. haha. I also had a Destina/Dominiel pull as well last night but was shooting for a Sez or Ravi like some of the guides said. Cheers for the intel amigo

Archates and Angelica are pretty even. I personally like Angelica a little more just because shields let you prep for damage and don't waste healing. But single turn immortality, and cleansing debuffs is huge (I was lucky enough to get multiple copies of both--haven't rolled another nat 5 star yet, but got lucky with healers at least). Angelica's immunity is really nice, especially for Arena but in a lot of fights, debuff application and mob speed and other factors make it so cleansing is better, and Archates can do that every 3 turns. (Angelicas group heal is every 4--but Angelica's single target is 2 turns and heals another low target, where archetes is 3 turns).

Sigret is really good, better than Sez or Ravi in some cases (Single target high end mobs or arena). But people say go for Ravi or Sez because they are fodder farming machines, and you need a fuck ton of fodder to get anything done. So they really, really hope at the start of the game, while Sigret shines more mid-to late game.

Cidd's really good, though. He's one of the better 4 stars. He's as good as a lot of 5 stars. He comes with one of the most important debuffs in the game, defense break and self buffs speed--these are both huge. He's extremely versatile, works in PvP and PvE really well, so he's a great character to start with. But he's also easier to get than any 5 star would be, so people tend to focus rerolls on 5's. (Only draw back on Cidd is he's earth, and a couple early farm targets, like Wyveren, are fire, which makes things a little annoying.)
 
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Qwirb

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Angelica is definitely the best healer imo. Her s3 can be extended by soul burn to give 4 turns of debuff immunity.

A lot of the high end abyss and raid content has stuff that will debuff and then wipe you the same turn if the debuff sticks giving no opportunity to cleanse. This is trivialized by timing Angelica’s s3 correctly.
 

Avatar of Nyx

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I use Angelica pretty much exclusively now as a healer/tank for most content. I do have Destina and really like her but that immunity from Angelica is hard to beat.

Once you get into the game, if you're able or willing to do some pulls, Bellona is just outstanding. Constant defense debuffs, aoes, big damage, especially to boss mobs, she's so good.
 

GhenghisKhan

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I rolled Destina and Sigret when I was starting out. Very glad I kept both. Destina is an amazing tank and can carry your teams, especially when you put a candlestick on her. Sigrets single target is pretty decent.
 

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Ended up just rolling with Ravi - sounds like she's a decent early carry but will need to expand as I go. Got pretty sick of rerolling and my thumbs were hurting last night... She seems fairly strong so far though carrying me through the story
 

Aazrael

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Tried summoning for Bellona but today I got Destina on my free summon so I guess my five star luck is gone for a while now. :(

I did need another healer though, stuck on floor 50 in abyss.
 

Onigen

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Feels like the truly good part about the specialty characters come from the Rune upgrades and holy fuck does those take a lot of grinding. It's 410 greater and 40 epic runes to max out a character, it wouldn't feel so bad if the Rune-farming had other rewards besides the runes and shit xp. On other note I farmed the new Zenos event for 6 copies so yay a "free" 6-star, it took about 42 runs on hard difficulty (cleared hell for the transmit stone, didn't even try epic hell or whatever the hardest is called). 42*15 = 630 energy ain't that bad for the reward.
 

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At least the runes are a guaranteed drop so there's a sorta definitive start/stop point to it. Wait til you're grinding out epic catalysts for the last awakening for a unit...

I've dropped over 2k energy so far trying for Dragon's Wrath catalysts to finish Bellona and only seen two (need 10 total). Im ready to kick puppies.
 

Springbok

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Up to Act 9 just progressing the story and running with Ravi/Surin/Baal & Sezan/Elson (no healer pull yet =/). Seems to be working out ok so far - B&S in particular while fairly mediocre damage is a debuff monster. DEF break, Slow, Unheal & poison seem pretty good to me. Surin is decent for the bleed on bosses as well but wondering if a Kirin would be a better match for B&S due to poison?? Running Ravi as a vamp tank/dps atm seems ok as well but I'll assume I need a real tank at some point?
 

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Also which guardian does everyone use? I assume the second one with the long c/d is a no-no and have been using the 3rd guy a decent amount
 

Aazrael

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Up to Act 9 just progressing the story and running with Ravi/Surin/Baal & Sezan/Elson (no healer pull yet =/). Seems to be working out ok so far - B&S in particular while fairly mediocre damage is a debuff monster. DEF break, Slow, Unheal & poison seem pretty good to me. Surin is decent for the bleed on bosses as well but wondering if a Kirin would be a better match for B&S due to poison?? Running Ravi as a vamp tank/dps atm seems ok as well but I'll assume I need a real tank at some point?
I think many use healers as their tanks. I used Angelica all of normal story but I got lucky with Destina and she is really tanky even if she is 15 levels lower. Stack hp on them if they use that for heals.

I use only Arky as guardian, think he uses partys attack power and does quite a lot of damage. The others take too long to build up.
 
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Uriel

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Krom the dragon who reduces cooldown is the best guardian overall. For certain raid bosses and abyss floors you might want Arky or the def break guy though.

For tanks yeah you generally put your healer in that spot because you want to gear them very defensively usually. Most knights are actually better off in a back slot soaking dmg with Aurius rather than face-tanking. Ravi can continue to tank into endgame with a good team, I'd try to get close to 1k defense and 13k+ hp though if she was tanking, and run a knight with Aurius + a healer/good support.
 
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Aazrael

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Just beat floor 50 with Destina (45), Angelica (60), Kise (50) and Ken (50). Ken did crazy dmg there and Destina helped a lot with the healing.

Blew all 40 bookmark rewards on Bellona Banner and got nothing. :(
 

Onigen

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I think Kiris is mainly used for killing Abyss bosses / Golem / Any really high % health boss that isn't immune to poison, S3 > S1 > Kromkruz > S3 > S1 > S2 = Boss dies to the poison. And she's straight up trash unless you awaken her 3 times atleast, gear doesn't matter that much, effectiveness,speed and hp.

I borrowed someone's Kiris to make a joke out of the "last boss" in 10-10
 
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Derpa

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FInally got a 5* hero after about 200 summons (but got like 5-6 5* artifacts during that). It was Bellona which I'm pretty happy about.
 

Aazrael

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I just cant get Bellona, got 3 5stars this weekend. Destina from free summon then dupe Sez and Kise from Bellona banner. :(
 

Springbok

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I blew probably 150 summons looking for a healer and ended up with Maya (bleh), Tenebria (seems like a slightly better dps/worse debuffer than Baal & Sezan) & on the second to last pull got Bellona. Will probably focus on building her up over Ravi now as her kit seems very good.

Didn't pull a single 4 star healer though and now have to pick from Elson or Hazel until I can grab one =/
 
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