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That"s because most people just don"t want to play these kind of games anymore. The type of content you describe just doesn"t appeal to a large audience. They are interested in quick action. Argue this point all you want, the bottom line are the sub numbers.

EQ1 no, but EQ2 sure as hell did suffer. The specs were a major reason why I went the WOW route, and am so glad I did in hindsight. As many people have said, you only have so much time to devote to these games, and comp compatibility is a big reason for choice.

Sad part is these are things we all warned you about on this forum. Had you not been stubborn and actually gave us credence things might be different. Glad you are "listening", remains to be seen if it will matter at this point. Afterall too many other competing games are coming down the pike...

Yeah but when I see doghead man I just can"t help but laugh at how ridiculous it looks.

And ya know what, I like it a hell of alot better than VGs ;p

You know there is a lot of truth in that last sentence. One of the things I liked about original EQ (pre-planes/Kunark) was that pretty much any group combo worked on everything (except Naggy/Vox). Kunark was the start of the holy trinity and has been the bane of these games too much ever since...

Come on guys VC and stockades really aren"t bad instances to go through. In fact I liked them because they didn"t take a ton of time to complete. Yeah you can skip em all, and with my alts I tend to do so, EXCEPT vc/stockades. I always do those. The rep runs make them worth it especially. But...

Nah. they"re stupid homos heheh.

8.5 million people compared to 150k are doing just that heheh. But seriously, if you make a group dependent game you have to give the "group" sufficient support. You have to make it not a quest to find groups but somehting that is absolutely easy to do. That, unfortunately, is the trick. But hey...

Why should a stiff exp penalty be mandatory? I have never been a fan of death penalties. I always thought they were sadistic and actually deters people from fully exploring a game. I can live with the WOW type penalty since it is nothing more than a 10pct repair acceleration (a repair bill you...

Well that raises a question. Brad mentions low churn rate so far. I wonder of the box sales what percentage was bought by current pass holders. I always maintained that they were the perfect initial customers since it only was a one shot $50 purchase for them. So while a churn rate wouldn"t be...

So in the end Utnayan was right. The game by admission wasn"t ready for release, it was released mainly so the subscribers could pay for the development. Although I can understand the agony of meeting weekly payroll, had SOE supported you for 2 more months, I honestly believe an April release...

Why?

Hey dickhead, I don"t care about the game NOW. I did once until I eventually saw what a suckass game it was turning into. And where the hell were you when Brad was making thread after thread of redundant screenshots on this forum touting his dinosaur of a game. He came here for one reason, which...

Hard to ignore the thread after Brad does his wall of text/spin in it. It begs for reaction, which is what it generated. Whether VG is or is not for me was never the issue. I just don"t care anymore what happens to the game. But when the spinmeister spins, I can"t help but reply.

Mk of course it is a dumbed down game he is suggesting. THAT is what the market obviously wants. The market wants fast paced, battle.net type games now. You can still make your VG, but just don"t expect the numbers for it. The market is TELLING you they don"t want it. Any stockbroker, for...

No, it was clear sarcasm and a statement claiming that Brad ignored people"s warning on this thread not to launch as scheduled. And if he claims that somehow his hands were tied and he was pressured into the release date, well then I will call him out for the BS he said in this forum how he will...

Steve dream on, VG will never pull 1 million. The market for this type of product just is not there. Ten years ago maybe. I understand your point, namely you want to play the game but optimization issues are turning you away. That is separate from Brad implying numbers are down because the wrong...

Then let him be candid and come out and say SOE made him do it. Because whoever made the decision should be fired in all honesty.

That is true. So millions like what I like and a 100kish like what you like. Fine. No issue there. But when Brad starts whining about how the wrong message is keeping his game at low numbers, I can"t help but roll my eyes.

Are you that obtuse? My statement was quite clear. We told him not to launch when he did BECAUSE of the impact tbc would have. Apparently he recognizes the adverse impact NOW.

No kidding mith, We all friggin warned him about the launch date. Yet he knew best. Just like he knows best about everything. Well if he wants 125kish subs he has it. Oh and the death penalty I am referring to is a lost experience one, something that game which sold millions doesn"t have.

I was content to never address this topic again until I read your wall of spin. Now I understand. Despite the fact that WOW sold MILLIONS of copies of TBC in its first month, the reason why VG has sold only a paltry 100kish is because of the message! No more cherrypicked screenshots. No more...

I only jumped on board regarding the issue after I got tired of reading Brad"s constant "used carsalesman" whoring on the boards. Doesn"t impact me if VG succeeds or fails, so I have no rooting interest either way. I just don"t like the bullshit.