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No, I'm prepared to go the other way. Of course it's rape when women do it, of course it's rape when men do it. I'm more curious about Trollface's opinion since he cherishes that statistic like it was his first born child, while refusing to acknowledge that taking advantage of a drunk person is...

"Gay mannerisms"? Is that what you think I was doing? Christ, you are a homophobe, aren't you? No, "emulating all the gay mannerisms" isn't supposed to make you uncomfortable. My addressing people in ways that are considered "off-limits" by internet alpha males does, in fact, make you (the...

We're here for you, brother. However she hurt you, whatever she did... just let it out, man. There's no shame in needing a shoulder to cry on.

I hesitate to use an analogy because any analogy brings about cries of "false equivalency!", but let's look at jaywalking. It's illegal, everybody knows it, but everybody does it. If you do it in front of a cop and get a ticket, are you going to use the excuse that everybody else gets away with...

Perhaps you missed the point of my post. I was pointing out the irony of you accusing me of artificially inflating my authority through my choice of name-calling on a message board where 3/4 of posts include condescending name-calling. But since you brought it up, I'll give you the credit of...

Sorry, sorry! I forgot that the confident and manly terms to use were "fag" and "mangina". How about "fucking retard"? That too insecure and transparent for you? ...fucking retard.

Snatch? Vaj? Hoo-hah? Sex-hole? Nah, I got nothin'.

I know, right? I said the same thing, and had pages and pages of angry, spiteful bile spit at me again and again until eventually everyone was like "Well, yeah, I guess being white is pretty advantageous after all." I don't mind, though. It's one thing to be right when everyone agrees with...

Wow, you're slow. Yes, you can't give consent while drunk. Yes, it happens ALL THE TIME anyway, because people are generally mature and responsible adults who are capable of drinking with the intention to fuck if they want to. What you don't get, what most people refuse to even acknowledge, is...

Why don't you tell me more about what I think? Feel free to portray my point of view as extremely contradictory to words I've actually used. You're a fucking idiot, you can't read for shit, and what you do read you don't understand. You then make up what you think I'm all about (based on angry...

For one thing, you're pretending the male can't catch some disease he doesn't know about. That's an obligation for him from that point on, yes siree. For another thing, yes, the other half of that sexual equation might actually get pregnant. That could become a pretty big obligation for her...

Second-best years of my life.

Has anybody on this boardever had sex ever???

Are you joking? Are you actually joking here? Being drunk absolutely makes you less intelligent, and certainly less capable of controlling your own thought process. Less knowing, too. Obviously. Fucking common truths disappear like they never existed. Like Cad, you're giving me better words than...

Wait... and sex isn't? Sex is not supposed to reflect the mutual assent and intents of both parties? What the fuck is wrong with you? Are there not often continual obligations associated with sex? Babies, perhaps? Herpes, perhaps? Jesus Christ, have you ever actuallyhad sex? All right dude, I...

Wait a second... this is the "I'm the one on the wall" speech, isn't it? I gotta get around to watching that movie some day... Edit: Hyper-feminism? Really? Wow. Do you also think hipsters look "emo"?

Already acknowledged. Read again.

See? This is why you keep missing the point. Being taken advantage of meanshaving something done to you. Being coerced into something you wouldn't normally agree to by somebody well aware of your susceptible state meansthey are the ones doing something wrong.Otherwise, why ever void a contract...

See, what you're missing is that you can't give consent when drunk. The vast majority of the time people get away with it because they know what they're doing and both sides mutually benefit, but you can't actually give consent when drunk. This is why I keep coming back to the contract example...

Now now, asshole, don't play the 'ole switcheroo on me. You're the ones trying to deny rights and freedoms here, not me. You're the ones saying if a girl gets raped when she's drunk she's shit out of luck. You're the ones saying knowledge of the effects of alcohol consumption = responsibility...

Hey idiot, do you know why I keep using the contract example? Try to remember this quote: See how that's worded? Doesn't say fuck all about the contract-signer being incapacitated. Doesn't say anything at all about how much alcohol was consumed. One condition under which a contract can be...

If a girls gets drunk and a guy takes advantage of that drunkenness to fuck her then yes, she can call rape. It's then up to the legal system to decide whether or not what occurred was a rape. Whether things like how many drinks she had, whether or not she was completely incapacitated, or how...

I never said taking advantage of someone was illegal. I said that there are lines you can cross when taking advantage of drunk people that can have consequences. If you take advantage of a drunk person and get them to sign a contract, that contract can be voided. If you take advantage of a drunk...

Jesus Christ. I know English is not your first language so I try to cut you some slack (I'm a language teacher, after all, and I'd still be happy to offer you a discount on online English lessons), but holy shit. Ho-leeeee shit. Maybe you should participate in a thread about recipes or...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How do those words feel coming out of your ass? Are they warm? Do they burble?

Sure. But get a guy drunk then make him sign a contract and, boom! Can be undone because the drunk guy was being taken advantage of. Get a guy drunk and fuck him and, boom! Can be charged with rape because the drunk guy was being taken advantage of. I repeat, for the third time because...

When I drink? I play video games, watch movies and goof off with my buddies. What the fuck is your point?

What the fuck are you talking about? Of course if you do something illegal it's your fault whether or not you were drunk. We're talking about having something done TO YOU when you're drunk. AndYES, being convinced to do something you wouldn't do when sober is having something done TO YOU. If...

Then it could pretty easily be argued, despite your previous claim that such is not the case, that the person taking advantage of a drunk person is, in fact, "making" something happen. You know, by being the driving force behind the action that was undertaken. I repeat: Do you disagree?

When did we switch from coerce to compel? When someone is in a susceptible state (ie: drunk), it is significantly easier to convince them to do things they would normally not agree to do. Just because you are aware of this when you drink, it doesn't give the rest of the world carte blanche to...

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So, like I said, you would "grit your teeth" and accept the consequences of your friend's actions because you willingly got drunk. That doesn't mean you weren't coerced, by the way. You just put yourself in a position where you were more susceptible to coercion. Maybe to you having your car...

Of course you can, especially if he took advantage of the drunkenness he was well aware of to get that consent from you. It's gotten people out of written contracts, you don't think it could get someone out of "I agreed to let him smash my car"? Maybe your point is that you wouldn't charge him...

No, no!Bad Trollie! You can't do that. Youcan't, man. Not after your ridiculous blue chart. Youcan't. Bad Trollie!

Quick Google search gave me this: This, too: Speaking about whether someone has to face the consequences of choices made while drunk, I found this interesting tidbit: So if someone takes advantage of your drunkenness to get you to sign a contract, youcanbe found not legally responsible for...

Alright, let's talk legal then. Believe it or not, consent can't legally be given when drunk. Fuck a drunk person, and it's entirely up to them to decide whether or not they've been raped. Yes, it's up to them to decide whether or not you've committed a crime and they've got the law on their...

Exactly. If you're a girl you shouldn't drink when there are boys around because they might take advantage of you. If you're a guy you shouldn't fuck drunk girls because they might call rape. Both are potential consequences either side should be very aware of, and therefore either side...

Now now, Trollie, Mist actually made a great suggestion. What better way to say "fuck you" to the feminist movement than by using their own weapons against them? You're just bitter 'cause ain't nobody layin' your ass enough for you to call rape.

Oh Jesus Christ, not this again.