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Actually, I was empathizing with him. I was acknowledging that what he went through has a significant impact on someone. I'm not sensationalizing anything and I'm not projecting anything. Is it douchier than: because I highly fucking doubt it.

Maybe you should try to pick a more appropriate time to be a fucking asshole. Three people he knew and worked with are dead. You don't think that has an effect on someone? You don't think it's gonna keep him up tonight, thinking about how things might have been different? How things are going to...

Wow. I didn't realize I was significant enough to get a meme made about me. Thanks, man. Having said that, I know for a fact there are others more deserving of the title "destroyer of threads" than me.

Hope you're not planning on getting any sleep any time soon. I'm practically traumatized just thinking about it.

Absolutely. There are positives and negatives to any decision. The decision to eat babies might make the parents upset, but they're so tender and the flesh just falls off the bones. Positives and negatives.

I get what you're saying. But perspective or no, there are many aspects of Capitalism that I can't just accept as "the bad that's necessary for the greater good". I really can't. Maybe that's the difference between you and me. I love the idea of reforming Capitalism to work out some of the...

I'll sell you a death of Superman issue, still in its bag, for half a donut.

110 years ago we had the technology and knowhow to create a light bulb that, for all intents and purposes, burned indefinitely. The light bulb, incidentally, was one of the first products to usher in planned obsolescence, one of Capitalism's most profitable and irresponsibly wasteful ideas. I...

Not everybody has to work. As more and more manual labor is automated, people are freed up to pursue whatever interests them. People can sit on their ass and do nothing all day if they like. But you know what, being an unproductive slug when literally any field you could want to pursue is an...

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I addressed "value" already. People "want" what their environment tells them they want, and even then the concept of "wanting" is closely linked to the concept of "owning", which is obsolete in the Venus Project. You don't have to barter because there's nothing you need to own. No singularity...

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You're not getting it. What do we need helium for? Out of all the potential uses, which ones do we have a (more plentiful or renewable) alternative for? Of the uses that absolutely need helium, how much reasonable demand would there be for that? Can we find an alternative way to fulfill that...

Just wow. Where to start? You're assuming peoplecan'tbe productive without an economic system. That's simply not true. This is a shit argument every time it's mentioned. "Yeah, a lot of your lives are shit, but hey! At least you're not starving Ethiopians so we gotta be doing something right!"...

Bullshit. There are enough resources on this world to provide a comfortable life for every person several times over. There would be no "haves" and "have-nots" because everybody would have what they needed and wanted, even if they literally "possessed" nothing. And you know what the irony is...

Stop right there. Why aren't we? I never said utopia. There's no such thing as a utopia. I never said all our problems would be solved, either. You're pulling a Hodj here, taking what I said and twisting it around so it's easier for you to portray it as wrong. I'm talking about pursuing our...

The Venus Project is managed by objective calculations. There's no "forcing" anyone into anything. Hell, let's look at today's society: If you don't like the way things are going, you can exercise your right to protest... and possibly get pepper sprayed, beat up or arrested. Isn't this using...

Dude, the most hilarious part of all your claims is that simulating the problem (either using the provided simulator or doing it with a friend and 3 playing cards) somehow produces incorrect result because it "works from the wrong premise that the first choice matters". What the hell does this...

It probably won't.

WHOA THERE. When the hell did I say government was the solution? Competition is good because it fosters cooperation (according to your post). Therefore it's the cooperation we're actually benefiting from. Do we NEED competition in order to have cooperation? Of course not. Profit is not...

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It isn't. Stupid question. Did you have a point?

Dude, you're just re-wording the "that's just the way things are" defense. People placing a self-determined level of importance on whatthey believethe "real world" to be means nothing. In a competitive society, people will take whatever advantage they are given to ensure that they are better...

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Crazy logic and probability brainteasers, Araysar getting RRPed... IT'S FRIDAY NIGHT!!!

As an aside, here's a little "nature vs. nurture" for you: Just watch the section where he talks about communicating with his son of a few months and then tell me we're not capable of so much more.

I addressed both his suggestion that greed is part of human nature and the possibility of a post-scarcity society, which he brought up, all in a package explaining why capitalism has outlived its usefulness and is now holding us back. What's your problem?

Lith, do you not believe we can feed the world's hungry? Do you not believe we can dramatically reduce our dependence on oil? Do you not believe war (especially war for profit) should be eliminated? Do you not believe that crime can be reduced by addressing the root causes of crime? Do you not...

"Same shit, different day?" According to Lithose, we are less barbaric than we've ever been before. We've been consistently ascending the ladder of civility and acting in ways that benefit mankind. All I'm saying is we're ready for the next step. All you're saying is "That's just the way things...

Have you ever wonderedwhypeople "don't give a shit about their fellow man"? It's because we're conditioned to compete with each other for a piece of the pie. We see that the most powerful people in our societies got there by only looking out for themselves, so we figure it's pointless for us, on...

I'm comparing it to what I know we are capable of. And I'm not talking a hypothetical "given half the chance, we could figure this out" stuff, I'm talking about stuff we've already figured out but can't put into action because it compromises somebody's profit. I get it, Lithose, Capitalism is...

Trollface confirmed mental patient.

It's nice to say that that if we all do our part, we can fix the world's problems. But it's also bullshit. We're raised to believe we can all play a role in making the world a better place, but really it's a small handful of people who decide how the world will develop, and the rest of us are...

Thanks, man. That was actually relevant. +1 I do take issue, however, with the implication that one should continue living at all costs, if not for oneself then for others. We've reached a point where large portions of the civilized world have their survival pretty much assured as long as they...

Ding ding ding! I appreciate that, as an English as a second language speaker, you take the time to edit your posts when you find errors in them. However, I still don't know what you're trying to say here.

Very well said. However, I'm beginning to think you've never had Hodj disagree with you before. You see, it honestly doesn't matter how well you make your point. You can be as clear as a crystal spring and he will continue to misinterpret whatever you say to suit his own argumentative needs...

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Actually, to a modern Christian who believes in Jesus, the social and political frictions of Rome mean nothing. You can explain how it's only because of those frictions that this person believes in Jesus today, but it doesn't mean shit to that person. If I want to recommend a video game to a...