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lol aint got shit tah sho tho Some of the class stuff looks cool and should play fun, but that's even less than my already lowered expectations expected to see.

When did anyone say end of 2015? Officially there is no date. Holiday 2016; mark it.

Nobody will be playing EQN in any form until late 2015 at best.

Never played UO and only recently heard this track, but every time I listen to it now I get in a nerd trance.

$2,000 a month with a family, a huge house and expensive hobbies is nothing.

I wonder how successful Planetside 2 is from how large its budget was (and is) versus how much it had made and brings in today. I like PS2 a lot, but the crowd seems small. Maybe the budget wasn't that big to begin with though.

So four weeks instead of three. He has consistently ignored the community and promised updates that never come. His forum interactions are either three words or three thousand words, but are always infrequent. Unless you're referring to some sub-sub-forum that's hidden in the depths of the...

I have no idea how chests work, but stumbling upon them in caves is pretty fun. I just assumed you randomly find them and they'd respawn after looting (based on your description I'm wrong).

Nice eulogy. Moorgard seems like a good dude and he helped bring some fun to the end of Vanguard's world. It seems like a pretty heartfelt and honest opinion. It's funny hearing about how jacked up the code was; fixing one thing might break something completely unrelated (how exciting that must...

That's not conspicuous, that's the norm. He'll post again soon with some more Unity assets and a long-winded rant about haters and how well Pantheon is coming along.

Preface: I'm a nostalgic, EQ1 dreamer who once had hope for Pantheon. Anyone outraged by the EQ name being lumped with this game is way too emotionally invested in what you think an EQ should be. It's a high fantasy MMO with swords, sorcery and dragons so they're going to use an established...

If by fuck2play you mean F2P, I got some news for ya brah.

I can see that argument. I just hope they take advantage of it in some cool ways. When I say flat I mostly mean textures and colors leave a lot to be desired. Jeff gave a "we'll comment later" on normal mapping which would go a long way in bringing some of the buildings to life.

I hope they squeeze new level of details. Buildings still look really flat and details aren't comparable to what modern engines can pull off, but I won't keep bringing that up and just hope that in time, this shit will look pretty damn good.

It depends on how big the pool is. Minecraft is working with an ocean of people while Landmark is currently a kid's pool. I wish there was a magic way to see the percentage of people who bought it and actually created something worthwhile versus those who got sick of stacking blocks after a...

I don't find the 20 percent comment offensive at all because it's the truth (and maybe even generous in Landmark's case). That's not the goal they should be aiming for, but it's the same shit with all player-creation focused games. Some really great levels came out of LittleBigPlanet but how...

It's definitely a dicey move but hopefully it pans out. They're using multiple contractors (I guess that's the right word here?) to supply tools that serve as the foundation of their game, but I thought they had a heavy hand in developing those tools for EQN? That goes for the voxel engine and...

Me neither, or really I don't feel like investing the time to be good at building. But one of the major points of the video was SOE's intention to transcend what Landmark is right now and some of the criticisms about it being a glorified Minecraft. I'd bet most of the population is similar to...

Posted this in the Landmark thread, too:Landmark w/ SOEs Terry Michaels and Dave Georgeson - YouTube It's a ZAM interview that's mostly based on Landmark, but mentions EQN a bit.Here's an articleat ZAM that highlights some of the dev comments.

Anybody watch this ZAM interview? Pretty interesting (well, I read thehighlights in the articleand I'm currently watching the full video).Landmark w/ SOEs Terry Michaels and Dave Georgeson - YouTube

Agreed. Vanguard would have been axed long ago by any other publisher. Actually it just would have been canceled because Microsoft was getting rid of it and for whatever reason SOE decided to foot the bill and launch it.

Have you ever heard of a little project called Pantheon?

There's definitely a bow. That tells me everything and more.

Vanguard never ran great but to say it ran worse than it did in beta is nuts. Maybe it's all the viruses infecting your computer?

Done. It was a party at the Nexus.

It's taking me like 12 years to fly my Rudolph to Stiirhad, lol. Everything in Vanguard is so massive.

Yeah, I figured with the Nexus but was unfamiliar with Stiirhad. I wasn't even sure it was ever officially opened. Thanks for the info!

How do you get in Stiirhad? Got summoned in Nexus.

Oh. This shit is kind of depressing. I've never seen the closing of an MMO. It's just a bunch of dudes about to see the game they've sunk ridiculous hours into go poof in an instant.

Bout to kiss this goodbye, logging in as Kinolin so holla if you see me. Edit: Where's Nexus? Seriously, no clue. I need to see the exciting stuff if there's anything happening.

Vanguard had some interesting ideas early on in development but I think one of the devs said it actually played like shit so who knows. I'm just happy developers are enforcing much tighter restrictions on how many active hotkeys a player can use. Ability bloat became so fucking absurd and...

That wasn't meant to be a literal translation, but to highlight an action heavy system and a slower system. Both can exist and evolve into something worth exploring in an MMO.

Any events or are they just shutting off the lights?

One doesn't negate the other. Sometimes I enjoy Diablo, sometimes I enjoy Divinity: OS.

I agree with that, too. The tools are cumbersome. I'm sure in the grand scheme of things it's really impressive that the work as well as they do, but the end user experience can still be frustrating and I damn sure don't feel like watching hours of Youtube videos on how to make a megagigavoxel.

Citz, you literally did agree to pay to test their unfinished game. You can't take issue with that, it had Alpha slapped all over it and the hammered that point home. I actually don't care, I just wish I would have played it a bit more to justify my money. Ultimately until Landmark gets some...

PC is weird. I don't get offended because I expect everything on PC to be like $2 on Steam at some point or another. I guess the difference here is this shit hasn't even launched yet.

Landmark is 66 percent off on Steam in every variety.Landmark on Steam

Aion wasn't out then and Rift was waaay later. Certain parts of Vanguard look good but your point is valid for a lot of the game, most of it is kind of ugly and buggy. It was always the scale I liked and hearing the Khal music kick in upon entering the city was pretty epic.