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No where in this thread you had something remotely called a point. If you act Tally had a point about something I would acknowledge it. But you didn't it. You have no legal nor common sense point at all in all this discussions.

Lance should have been ejected or punched in the face, hopefully in the fourth some expendable player decks him. This is one of the few times I wish there were such a thing as an enforcer in basketball.

His feelings wont let him understand that. If the statement "P implies Q is true", that P cant be true and Q false. Or in his terms Base statement non consent sex = rape. Drink = no consent can be given So drink and sex = rape. ALWAYS

You live to farm negs. You should be banned for a week, for not offering anything constructive to a discussion. All you have are

It is because sex is a contract, and we all know how contract can not valid if drunk.

I will gladly say that "1/3 of the rapes commited by women" is not rape since the guy is drunk if you say that the other 2/3 of rapes, (or what ever high percent do not include violence) are not rape if the woman is drunk. I am prepared to agree to it. Are you? Because under our argument is...

i started reading "all you need is kill". not bad at all.

I guess that you can say that in order for women to have rights... men had to die. Sort of macabre but historically accurate.

Mist, it wasn't until WW2 and the actual societal need to have women in huge numbers in the US workforce that change the role of women in US society. It is kind of ironic that it was the lack of men what propel this to the front line. The technological advances only effect was that now women...

There is a difference between been the best scorer at a position and been the best at that position. Westbrook is probably the point guard that scores the most, but he is not the best point guard ,because he doesn't get his teammates involved. He is the new version of Allan Iverson, an...

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Not trollface. Really mist? Really?

i laughed agraza. yes i did. But I'm with you; I named my dog like an ex girlfriend, so yes I completely own that bitch.

Who cares about progress? Also what free societies are this you speak of? London on the 1800 was a free society and if you were poor you will die poor. Do you know any history at all?

There is no element of truth to saying White man ruled the world for the last couple of millennia. While male only ruled europe because there were no other races in Europe for several millennia, so male ruled Europe. White male never ruled , Africa, middle east, Near Asia, Far Asia, South...

It was fucking awesome to be the king, or nobelty.

You are joking eomer right? Any time period it sucked to be poor, regardless of gender and skin color. Medieval poor people, the majority of the population at the time people, had a horrible time.

Here is the inconsistency with your argument. On one hand you claim that consent can not be given when drunk. And on the other hand you said and i quote again "Again (again, again), most people can drink and fuck and have no problems." Those two positions can no coexist because drinking and...

Tell me what are the female obligations after casual sex? Please use feelings to ilustrate this point.

Sex is just sex, it does not reflect any intent after sex. Nor there is any implied obligations. Unless you count kissing them in the forehead as an obligation.

The law is pretty clear. Look at the Florida statue i just linked. Consent" means intelligent, knowing, and voluntary consent. been drunk does not preclude any of those categories. Also tanoomba there are zero ongoing obligations after having sex. That is the beauty and definition of casual...

This is what this thread is about.

I'm convinced now, that we are debating about feelings.

Tanoomba. why do you keep using the word coerced. It does not means what you think it means. Can you agree to that at least?

Do you have any legal basis for saying "that you can't give consent when drunk"? Not "you cant give consent if coerced", not "you cant give consent while compelled", but specifically, drunk. Find any stature, anything please, so we know what jurisdictions to avoid. You do know that the onus...

Let me fix the quote so you can see the point.

The only way to nullify the marriage contract, the status, is by having the marriage voided, not divorced, or if it was illegal to begin with. Been drunk at the time of the weeding is not a basis for voiding a marriage. Not sleeping with the wife in some jurisdictions is ground for voiding.

words have meaning... If a girl gets raped, it doesn't matter if she is drunk or not, charges should be filed. If a girl gives consent to sex, it doesn't matter if she is drunk or not, charges should not be filed.

You know that we are not arguing about contracts.. right... Are you familiar with strawmans?

Marriage is not a contract, marriage is a status. Marriage have existed way before contract law was created.

At least he made his position clear. He wants to eliminate a US constitutional provision because a drunk female cries rape.

Why is the idea retarded? It is not practical and cost prohibited, but not retarded.

I don't think you are familiar with how our justice system works. Nothing prevents the girl from filing a case. Second as soon as the complain comes, now the other person have rights too, such as the right to not been arrested by the police without reasonable suspicion. That right knows no...

Tanoonmba. First when you say that " you can get charged with rape. This is the way things are", then why the Ohio case, didn't had any charges presented? The victim was always drunk, and sex had definitely taken place. Also I'm hoping you mean been charged as "been charged with a crime and...

I agree with Cad, not because he is a lawyer, but because he like lawyers do, use words on their literal meaning. Something that people have forgotten.If i paid a drunk $50 to chop off his finger, and he goes and chops off his finger, there is nothing criminal about my actions, which part of...

We are actually using the literal meaning of the word coerce. Did you read about strawman ?

So you half agree with yourself and half agree with yourself that you are wrong. Make up your mind misty.

When someone is drunk is not a carte blanche to do illegal things to him/her. Period. When someone is drunk the law states that his drunkenness is not an excuse, nor a reason for his behavior and his actions. This is not for debate, I would hope that you agree to that. If he performs an...

Why are you air quoting "making"? Is it because you don't want it to mean the literal meaning ofmaking something happenwhich is to take direct action?

He is not aware of his own posts.