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I think somewhere in there is where the McMMo comes in. MP skyrim you play with your friends, and then go back to public, persistent town. Path of Exileish, or Neverwinter. Maybe even having it mostly private, but your instance can be opened to public ala Borderlands, or PoE^. I don't...

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As broadband proliferated. And as more online multiplayer games proliferated. more and more having permanent online accounts. you start looking at LoL's, diablos, guildwars, etc.. and asking, what am I paying for in mmos? And at the same time the MMO's got more and more instanced, making...

haha oh dear. yeah, that phrasing doesn't give me any confidence at all. Although, GW2's problem was not a conceptual one. its was a mathematical one mainly. Scaling up and down was not handled the best. the formula didn't account for gear or traits quite well enough. Traits...

Gravedigging profession. My god. oh oh oh. Undead pc's from bodies that got swallowed too!

no, he just described the first 10 years of MMOs. Even in Wow people bitched to no end on travel times and having to walk to raids, camping entrances, etc. especially on pvp servers. Oh you want in Blackrock? going to have to corpse run past 90 alliance, or vice versa. There are MANY...

dropping a body in a world with destructible terrain seems like it could be a problem to me. terrain regen around it? does the body pop on top of it? Either way, problems. aka, digging a tunnel with pickaxe, someone trains an ogre into your tunnel. it kills you. and then the tunnel...

Well, the "long range targeted systems" suck answers this as well. Again, like in Hong Kong with striker hanging back. If the only way to gang bang kaiju was to run up and fist fight them, 5 or more on 1 target would result in more friendly fire then anything else. also, the pilots we saw...

This was my "behind the scenes" explanation for the "wall of life". I don't think I mentioned it. Fact is, a real explanation of the wall isn't really needed. just like the Jeagers. Would exposition really have helped the movie? I did watch it again btw. So have a better remembrance of...

creeping charlie is green. growns faster, more solid then grass. will not ever be overwhelmed by violets, crabgrass or any other weed. and it has awesome purple flowers. why would anyone ever use grass?

false equivalency unfortunately. if mmos had 1ms response times and frame hit detection. sure.. but they don't. they have 10s cooldowns on skills. 1.5s globals, mythic seconds, often lock on targeting. just having a block is revolutionary in mmos it seems.

its way too early to talk about abilities and shit. remember when GW2 locked traits into teirs 2 weeks before it went live? whatever format they have now, could easily change by the time this is ready in 2 years.

Dredd and pac rim vs Grownups, scary movie 36, etc. Can you blame them?

More then just "predisposed".

bards are dps like Rogues got transformed into dps!

bots are not difficult to beat in LoL.

yeah. what is the point of cash end game?

If it was simply fighting against socially engineered fate, that would be one thing. "I was bred to be a factory working, but I really want to be a librarian!" ok, that is something. Plenty of totalitarian stories are about that. And that is a fair enough point. Gattaca goes past that...

Odd. Overall, I find it to be a huge improvement over bl1. Little things like menus and the like. guns seem a bit more balanced. Those improvements on the farming game. Achievements and challenges. Some problems still exist. There is a bit of cross purpose in its co-op mp nature...

yeah, or alternatively, you skill up your pet, wherein you press the "g" go kill everything button. and sit there while your pet... kills everything. 90% of the time my play leveling my mechano is, spawning the robot. Running around opening chests while he clears the map.

I had no idea Hatorade was an adorable little girl. Nice pieces.

Not even. there are a TON of games that do not use the trinity. anything older then EQ pretty much.. Trinity as we know it now, is just pure laziness. Poor AI, and poor design, that reduced DnD from its far more robust class interaction, to tank, dps, healbot. NPC AI at the time couldn't...

Seriously? 2013 and we are still asking that question? tanking via controls. slows, hard cc, collision, etc. No taunts.. but there is still aggro. Aggro as a value of "threat of target" is fine. dealing damage, healing, using CC. its a value assigned to assign threat as you would vs a...

but now with facial recognition, you'll be able to see players making jerk off faces while raiding. Revolutionary mmo design. INNOVATION.

I said trinity sucks. I didn't say classes can not be unique in design.

trinity sucks, hybridization is fantastic. Games just have failed to implement it well. the sad part is, they used to. just everyone seems to have forgotten how. They have gotten so lazy with false aggro. Encounters themselves need to be rethought from the ground up. Too many people have...

yep. This board and casuals alike proved very very few people want a true unguided experience. Gw2 was pretty amazing for explorers. The other 95% complained that they were underleveled.

"good" smart and hard AI is the holy grail. Yeah, that shit isn't happening. Especially with destructible environments. That shit is nearly impossible when you don't have pathing issues, nevermind when you have anything goes world movement.

you guys want pvp in a game with destructible environments? FFS, you think knockbacks are annoying? what do you think anything that changes the environment will do? even in small scale, it would be so disruptive to gameplay. large scale, what happens when 20 people cast spell "x" that digs...

melee in a game with destructible environments, and buildable. hahahaha. Don't mind me blowing up that bridge, building a giant wall of ice, blowing up a hole under you and the enemy that you are trying to melee from 50ft back on my wizard.. notice, he didnt have an answer for that in the...

I can think of what, 2 out of 80 that didn't make money? APB and Tabula rasa? Sure disappointments like SW:TOR,and DCUO. But even they and many others like them made profits. And going to ftp only increased those profits. The secret world may have been on the actual losing money path, till...

its not even just SoE. its every company. every single mmo to date is "if done right". DCUO could have been amazing, if it was done right. Neverwinter and its foundry could have been amazing, if it was done right. GW2 was soo close, if only it was done right. Rifts were soo close, if only...

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Small things like bridges, trees, etc. we have seen that before. what about his example of grabbing a pikeaxe and digging down? will that hole close up behind you? How exactly do you have a persistent, procedurally generated world? I was under the impression those two words were mutually...

yeah. lets see. What mmo has digging, etc? we've yet to see this is even "really" a "mmo" yet. Minecraft, terraria servers, etc. we've talked about the hybridization of mmos in other threads, games like Marvel super heroes, etc, which are barely mmos, or Neverwinter. those graphics...

fuck am I agreeing with him again? I'm not going to say, the issues are not solvable. But I will believe it when I see it. Its a hell of alot easier to go wrong, then it is to get right here.

that and the ecosystem idea has the same problem.. hunt the shit to extinction. paths people don't use get overrun. Populations move from old game to new. newbie areas get overrun.. So rife for exploitation.

Pretty sure hes going to end with saying the two are linked. Which will explain eq next's instancing. hoping from world to world.

double.

"2-3months to completely a public quest." So, what do we think? 16 hours? or 2 days?