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Sure, here's the deal: -The death penalty is being misunderstood by all the new testers. It's NOT an XP debt system, but everyone thinks it is. Even though it's not, or so they claim. -All the mobs under level 5 are overpowered and shouldn't be one-shotting (or two-shotting) new players. They...

What if, instead, they made an extraction game like Dark and Darker? Would you dump them, then? :)

Interesting development regarding one of the Pantheon team..

For those not following this latest development as closely as others.. Unofficial Pantheon Discord server invite link. Message link from June 21, 2023, where Kilsin requests to be removed from the Unofficial Discord Server Staff Role. The rest of the messages regarding the whole situation are...

well, they're on the right track (no, not really) https://seforums.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/14279/group-and-player-etiquette/view/post_id/272137 Answers from Kilsin regarding camps, kill stealing, and similar, April 23, 2023: -- Can a camp be owned? No Do you own the mobs at that...

Two possibilities, from where I sit in the cheap seats.. 1) They don't have access to edit the source code of the main rendering thread, in Unity. That requires an Enterprise license, and they don't have it. Without it, they have to deal with the absolute stuttering shitshow of the default...

Easy money on that bet. Their current crafting "dev" is just a community member who happened to run their own pantheon theorycrafting forums. Not a developer. Not someone who worked on another MMO before joining the Pantheon team. Not an MMO developer veteran. And.. Someone who absolutely...

Evercraft Online. It's an MMO with grouping required like EQ, but with voxels, and these crazy bastards had their last completely free public test on June 18th, 2022. That test was far more successful than anything Visionary Realms has produced in over 8 years, and it had more complete...

Correct, there is no publicly confirmed, enumerated, or stated persistence layer, yet. So far, ALL of the pre-alpha tests have been utilizing and demonstrating session persistence only. They have also, to date, only been scheduled for very brief periods. A few hours per testing session, and...

He convinces some very naive consumers to donate money to an 8+ year endeavor that is still in pre-alpha, and statistically has a near zero chance of ever producing a product or service you can subscribe to, download and play. And feeding the whales a few hours per year of scheduled testing...

Wow, I'm actually surprised. I would have thought USD$1000 would be the minimum required for this amount of emotional investment. You're a cheap cultist, Nirgon. :emoji_smile:

That's all I could think of too. This most recent post from Joppa_VR was cross-posted on their official forums as well. I've listened to the most recent podcast and read this and that, and.. Honestly? It's just more words and delay at this point. They can say whatever they want, but in a few...

:emoji_laughing: A wiki. Woo. How very 1995 of their fanbois. I guess Kilsin is too busy updating their massive, comprehensive FAQ on their official site. And not updating the existing wiki. Makes me wonder why they didn't just start adding adding more entries there? The sad part is...

This week, they started charging USD$14.95/month (Champion Subscription) or USD$200-$500 (Champion Pledge one time) for access to their official Discord server. I'm sure that will push the project to reach Alpha.. sooner.. :emoji_thinking: It seems reasonable to re-iterate there is no Visionary...

Yes, if you know what you're doing. They hardcoded everything into the client for years, and have never confirmed a dedicated server session layer or database persistence layer server. Not in any video, post, or interview. The fanboi's have all assumed they must have one now, because they ran a...

It's to force your whale-friends to pay $1000 for the privilege to 'test' a pre-pre-pre-alpha client with no database persistence layer for a few hours per year.. if 2015-2020 are any indication.

Uh oh. They've removed infinite leashes, overland zones lines, and the prohibition on in-game maps. Not looking like BradQuest any more.. RIP Re-skinned EQ1. :emoji_rolling_eyes: It's nice that they're changing all the design goals of the project after seven and a half years. Makes all those...

You know what's one of the great benefits of projects funded by donations? Transparent communication. Looks like the shine has worn off their new crafting developer. :)

From the latest video, around the 34m34s mark, reviewing their recent internal patch notes: " ... includes a fix for the potential to loot extra world items when spam clicking depending on whether there was high latency involved ... " aka "still trusting the client, as of March 2021" ... yeah...

'Different responsibilities' translates to multi-class/multi-role. For example, the Rogue filling multiple roles of several other classes. And possibly better, easier, more efficiently, or faster. If that's the path they're going down, this isn't the game the whales paid for. On the other...

You mean the grossly overpowered/imbalanced played-by-a-dev class that will be inevitably nerfed into the ground before or when that dev leaves the company? The one that can ignore/bypass the limited action set, mez four mobs, and DPS better than any other class, currently? The one that's...

It's because they're designing a single player or single group game, with the expectation that a single player or group will only ever be in an area. Not a game for 200-400+ people in a zone at the same time. The breakdown in the design is everywhere, but the whales don't care, they've paid...

Yep all good here. :) This is one of the last few places online where opinions can be freely expressed without censorship. I felt it was worth doing to point out that the basic Pantheon systems, pretty much all of them, aren't working properly, mathematically. In a game built entirely on math...

Funny you should mention that. I watched the first hour of the video yesterday and made some VERY nitpicky and snarky notes..

Yep. Although Michael "Artois" Butler says they're all cosmetic, while in the same thread, confirming they are in-game items that increase your carrying capacity and/or go into equipment slots. Wrap your head around that logical fallacy, and you'll be Nirgon's new best friend. :cool: They have...

They're hiring a shader artist when they don't even have the basic decisions of the design made yet, never mind implemented? Very logical. Makes sense. Graphics are way more important than gameplay, especially to their target customers. For sure. I will give them this, they know how to spend...

Looks like crafting is going to be OFF THE HOOK, YO! From their shiny new crafting volunteer dev: " ... this is an area where we haven't quite landed on a specific implementation or formula just yet, so I can't give you a very specific answer. We're looking at a few options and we may actually...

... and if the dark myr, skar, and ogres are any indication, what ends up in game for halflings will be precisely nothing like the concept art that people pledged for, during the past 7 years. They're going down the exact same path as Vanguard. Humans with different heads, and a height slider...

Despite the content and tone of the October Producers letter, they're very adamant that absolutely nothing is wrong financially, everything is fine, and there is no need for any extra money. Money is their last concern, and they're fully funded to an indefinite launch date in the indefinite...

Kyle Olsen, Nov 6, 2020: ".. encrypting real-time udp data is a fool's errand in my opinion .." (from that ^ video) I'm sure everything will be fine. No-one would have any interest in observing or manipulating live client-server MMO communication. Seems like the Visionary Realms industry...

Yep, they finally disclosed the real reason they've never shown the Summoner, to date. Apparently, controllable/stateful server-side NPCs (actual real pets) are hard. (around 39m52s): " the pet system is probably the most complicated part of the abilities integration ". It's great to see they...

That Oct 17 NathanNapalm Youtube video had two interesting items, imo.. 1) They have a homegrown network library that is so amazing and so awesome that it has attracted interest from outside studios for licensing. It will apparently solve all their server load problems. 2) They had serious...

Holy good goddamn. They were hardcoding everything into the client up until a few months ago. Well no fucking wonder it's a disaster. "Hey there howdy, pantheon devs! I got this here thing called a 'daterbase'.. ya'll want one uh them? It's free!" Yeah, industry veterans. Sure.

If you have any interest in the theoryforge video interview with Joppa from Oct 11, here's the youtube transcript with some paragraphs. A summary? He really, really, really likes Zelda. They're definitely stacking all the chips on climbing, and all of the previous differences, tenets, and...

... It's endemic, and an absolute plague of terrible within EQ1, in any form, today. I've seen entire guilds destroyed because of boxing and all the consequences of leveling, progressing, and raiding with them. ( Uhm, can my box char loot that, if no-one bids on it? It has DKP... yeah. Not...

Oh ya? And how many years away is that? Seriously. Pick any number, and I'll be happy to wait. FYI, in case you lost track, Convo? ~4 months from now is the 7th year development effort anniversary for Pantheon.

Good god, the pride and arrogance of such a statement! What significant difference has been demonstrated publicly, zone/world-geometry-content aside, from PA1 until now? NOTHING. The combat loop is the only remotely working in-game system demonstrated to date, and it's identical from 2017/PA1...

Kilsin confirmed in this thread, in May 2019 that developers "are not working for free". The math doesn't work out otherwise, but their claim is that angel investors or companies are throwing money into the bottomless pit to allow the employees to pay their mortgages. To be clear, it's...

🎶 🎜 " Never fear, the fantheon white-knights are here, defending poor developers far and near! " 🎝 🎶 I love watching the years of "It's only $phase_of_development, stop complaining!" right up to the point the money runs out and everyone is laid off. So great.

For a login server load test? Yikes is right. :emoji_thinking: 6 years later, and the login server can't handle a few thousand logins, paced over many hours per day? Train wreck incoming.