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So what are you now banking on them not being able to do? The animations, mining, or X number of star systems? The problem with this 3 year old argument is that the majority of the features they promised as part of their kickstarter campaign are already demoed. It's almost to the point now...

Repeating yourself after a blanket dismissal. How droll. The video specifically addresses what you are talking about and says how they are overcoming the exact issue that you are whinging about here. It's even queued up to the relevant portion. He discusses the unified rig and he quantifies...

Nice to see that the antis haven't evolved their arguments at all. Let's see which ones are my favorite. Variise is a shill and with the same brain deriding the legions of obsessive SC fanbois who waste money and time. Derek Smart links without any relevant quotes or thoughts. Too many...

I've read you state that you could think of ways that it could be done. I think youre full of shit but given that your analogy of an impossible task is just you being a sophist.

How would you possibly know? Wikipedia?

You just saw a demo where the scope you are being incredulous about was on display. At least this time you picked software that failed.

No I meant your commentary about the actual features and your ongoing claim that they won't be able to deliver them. When asked you basically tell about how right your 'boss' thought you were on another game and similar specious nonsense.

And you fail to articulate anything that actually indicates a professional skepticism. You name drop games, have story time, and add lots of incredulity.

Except those are hardware which cannot be fully prototyped in a virtual setting as opposed to software which allows for easier prototyping.

AtV is usually a good viewing even though I have a personal loathing for Ben Lesnick. 10ftC is also typically pretty good. RtV otoh is nigh unwatchable.

What do you think people are pointing out the critical contrasts for, dimwit? You comparison is not lost on anyone.

Seeing that 38 studios ran out of money before they could finish the MMO development, the two issues are not mutually exclusive dimwit. This game already has a functioning multiplayer prototype.

I have read up on it and have concluded that you are full of shit. When CGI loses its revenue stream and is put on trial for fraud let me know. Shilling got $75m in 2011 and bankrupted in 2012 but yeah pretend that the two are in similar circumstances. You argue like priests and...

I know you said that but the implications that you are laying out are like that; fact is that they can already use their previous assets for the new build. The game already has multiplayer functionality, dimwit. Go ahead and mindlessly handwave at Shilling underfunded, embezzlement ridden...

Goddamn youre stupid. The game wasn't changed from a platfrom to a MOBA. It was changed from a single player space sim with partial multiplayer functionality to one single player space sim plus a space sim MMO. Completely changed means that they couldn't use the old material when they...

The flight model updates were all put on hold. The new items and pipes system is supposed to come out in the next patch. When it does they will start rolling out the update FM. For about the past 6 months or so it's been like this and they use flight computer workarounds. Some ships work...

DAoC faction balance worked just fine with 3v3. Also they are not building a PVE world. They don't have to spend development time on quests and 5000 different mob models. There will be aggro NPCs but they are not central to progression and are more about holding territory. What's never...

CamelotUnchainedhas all those elements. They have islands and realms take over an island collectively but you and your guild will build the stuff on it to defend yourself. There are harvesting nodes and rather than humping back and forth from them you set up supply routes and defend them.

I don't see how real combat strategic choice is relevant to what makes an entertaining game. Obviously it works. I never said that I had a distaste for large scale combat. I said that FFA leads to zerg guilds winning them. WHO used to have large 250+ people battles and they were fun until...

No I used 2002 as an example of the rate of preference of people at large when the situation was much more distilled. The PVP areas in UO were deserted post Trammel. It's not the near 50-50 split like you imply with the above characterization. Also to note is that push come to shove you'll...

SB was a stillbirth and DF was a pos on arrival. You said so yourself about DF. UO launched with their bounty system. PVP was more than just 'allowed.' It had mechanics in place. People still left the PVP areas given a choice.

All hail our corporate overlords! For without them we could never make a budget!

Nice the 'real' MMO experience huh? Still stands that people had the 'real' MMO experience and still went to Trammel. I think the main problem is that no one wants to spend the money to create the game that you want because outside of a very dedicated niche it just doesn't sell all that well.

There is no cult either but it doesn't stop you from the characterization. a_skeleton_03 was saying that publishers were necessary for financial responsibility and peddling the notion that SC not having one was why it was going to fail. He and others were piling on variise using the argument...

UO was one of the first major IP MMOs out. It released before EQ and there were no other options. It also existed before the FFA vs RVR camps had been set up. Trammel came years down the line and when it came people left the FFA PVP areas. I use it to illustrate a point. MMO's are...

And yet some people don't want to do that. Fact is that when given a choice most people end up avoiding FFA PVP if they can. That has been obvious since people have had the option to go to Trammel. It's why governments exist in real life. With RVR the faction leader is an NPC not somebody...

Read the SC thread then. I meant 'you' as in Cinge and the anti crowd there not people at large. The main argument is that without game publishers a development team cannot be financially responsible and a whole lot of repeating of "too many features" which does have a champion in the...

Another one that likes to repeat himself like an idiot even after I bashed the game to make a point. It is interesting the level of cross thread angst I have engendered with this "I'm smarter than you" pedantic dick routine. It's supposed to bait people into real argument; instead around here...

Saying that you use another premade guild doesn't invalidate my argument. Best is a matter of perspective. EVE definitely has niche appeal.

You should feel bad for saying that what I said about you is an analogy. You ARE one of the leaders of Rerolled. You HAVE a premade guild in which you ARE a leader. You HAVE a built in advantage in a FFA environment. That is not an analogy. It's an observation of fact. I'm not calling...

2.3 was to add the bounty system. 2.4 added persistence and a functioning store/currency. Next iteration is supposed to be the hardpoint/pipe system on ships. Currently in the meta you can zero-g, dogfight, and FPS seamlessly. He predicts the broader system implementation and planet stuff...

Line by line. What a maroon. So you are going to continue to repeat yourself and insist on ignoring his unprovoked explanation of what he meant that immediate followed and continue to wishcast a poorly formed negative outcome. Thanks for the chuckles See Einstein always said that...

You cannot change your demographics and emigration is not always possible. They still remain 'hard coded factions.'

Purist partisans are always amusing. You remind me of sports fans. I've said plenty negative about the game. I loathe Ben Lesnick. I'm a Cutlass owner and seen first hand that their outsourcing has produced shit. I just don't dumb down things into puritanical reductio ad absurdum...

Then reality is dumb. We are born into nations and demographics and its a fact of life. There are certain dynamics associated with that. Recognizing it and manipulating it isn't dumb. Youre one of the leaders around here so given that any game that comes out with your preferred paradigm...

You don't seem to take anything seriously so who cares?

Since I called you a FFA refugee cliche you just had to do the PeeWee Herman? How droll. Two things; one more involved then the other. First, you are repeating yourself like an idiot. You can stamp your feet, clap you hands, scream and repetitively shout "minimum viable product" if you...

Your malcontent FFA refugee hipster schtick is as cute as it is cliche. I've already said that the biggest problem I've seen in MMO development in the past decade has been VC publishers whinging about completion dates and the return on their investment, thus forcing games out with critical...

This is an amusing take in light of the 'diversity' of takes that I've read from the opposition. They were defending parroting Smart's takes this morning "just because he's biased doesn't mean he's wrong.". Even this 'cultist' take is groupthink around here as someone characterized it earlier...

Cross teaming to overcome a third faction was encouraged in DAOC and wasn't against the rules. Albion typically dominated population and if you wanted to play Mid or Hib you had to cooperate cross team to overcome that. It certainly led to Albion whinging when it worked but divide and conquer...