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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    In the situation that occurs where it would be important to tell a brief linear story, we would consider using an instance in that case. No ifs.. there ya go. You're reading too much into it because of your stance on the situation.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It is missing the "if." IF it is important for us to have to tell a linear story.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That wasn't from anything I said.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That was the basis of my original comment (though SOE's BS didn't end nearly as long ago). The people who chastize one group for "blindly following" and forgiving Brad's transgressions, yet they'd white knight for SOE because of EQN/EQNL. Obviously some people just get overly butt-hurt when...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No. I wasn't "bitching" about it either, simply stating an observation. It is actually a good thing considering the charge and amount of alpha access opportunities provided. I think you're mixing tones between two topics going back and forth. Honestly now. Have you ever been in an alpha...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Hmm well... "From the pantheon kickstarter." I guess being around these forums before the latest and greatest incarnation doesn't mean much. I mean, for christ's sake... How could I have a normal life not ego-stroking people on a forum for 4 years right? If you're looking for sympathy...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No. I never said that.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    He didn't even refute. He posted some dumbass retort saying: "Citation needed." Citations are also not a requirement for "common knowledge" aspects. This 21st century "university" bullshit is downright retarded. This is not a court of law, even if it were, body of proof is not required...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Read: I'll suck SOE's dick till I choke on their wad. I'm not telling you to research for me. I'm not pandering to you bullshit either. You disagree.. You prove me wrong. I'll refute. That's how it works. Welcome to the days before one could hide anonomously behind a fourm handle and...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Just saying.. It is like G2, G3, G4. It means "something" but there is no hard guideline to define it by. I've been in Alphas with weekly resets, daily resets, partial content access etc... It is -almost- unheard of to have nearly the entier game open fir "testing" during an alpha. As...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    There are a decade of SOE forms and related sub sites. Take off the blinders and go check there. Not my job to cite every instance of a common occurace. Shall I also cite where oceans have water in them....
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Landmark "alpha" is the furthest thing from a true alpha I've ever been in. It is more akin to the earliest stages of beta.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So let me get this straight.... SOE lied to, bacstabbed, and downright cheated a majority of its consumer base, while watering down thier games for over a decade... and a shiney new distraction just erases all of thier wrong, so we should praise them for how much they are listening and...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Dude.. You asked what a fucking backpack was... Chill if he gave you an equally smartass quip in return.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    SOE has/had no qualms lying straight to the faces of their customers, why would any employee feel the need to display proper decorum or fear retribution/loss of job? Shit.. They came right out and took a simple post of mine, banned me from SOE Live, the forums, and the game, claiming I was...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That logic can easily be applied to everyone who has posted to this thread... And yet the general consensus is that they should listen to us. Hypocritical much?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    There is still a "decent" size group of potential supporters who would like a response about Salim's involvement during his tenure with VG and EQ2. I say "decent," as it is at least mid double digits from vocal people. Ignoring them just reduces the number of potential supporters. Even if...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    More like: "when they'll cave."
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I've already spoken with Salim about his involvement with Vanguard. I brought it up on the KS page and got rolled by fools saying I was a troll. There will be an answer from him. I'm not sure if it will be some "testimony" or via a vid. He isn't the best with words and forum posts...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Quote from Brad, taken from the comments section of his interview with Boogie2988: "In a nutshell, our publisher was Microsoft and we had a deal with them to make a new AAA MMO. For about four years everything was going well and we were almost ready to start some early alpha testing of the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Aside from some lower perks and the product itself.... I'm very skeptical about KS. Hey... Gimmie 3 grand for this. I'll sign a copy for you. Don't think about my potential profits off of your dime. That is the big drawback from KS. Right next to that is... I just gave some dude my...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    This kickstarter is not the end-all be-all for Pantheon. If VRI is smart, the moment the Kickstarter ends, they'll have a donation system set up on their main page, with better laid out tiers and listed milestones. Citadel of Sorcery's Kickstarter failed dismally. They're still going at it...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    For the size of the game (at launch) it only needs to be the size of Antonica... or Qalia or Thestra (thestra is bigger than all of EQ1 at launch though) That is still big enough for regional trade/AH's. Even post rift addition, that is a 10 minute "run" from one side to the other.. With a...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Ask any VG player. The tool was there. It had lots of "simple" options with it. Most people still spammed chat LFG/LFM. It won't replace that, it provides a tool to assist IF used. The only time the tool replaces common interaction is in the cases many of us are adamantly opposed to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Exaggerated or not, by OoW, a 2.0, anguish-geared monk could tank all group content and most bosses in Anguish, short of Vangl/OMM. EQ had the WORST class balancing... Not due to the classes themselves, but due to the dev(s) in charge at the time. One guy would favor rogues... Rogues would...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    As a druid, I can say... Burned Woods was moved back over near Western Wastes. It started to catch on fire again so they put it back out there.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    If you take VG for example.. you could pick just the 3 "capitols" as being the trade centers, with no "ports" to them. You could then implement your other idea to additional towns/cities. I don't think Pantheon will have enough cities at launch for inter-city ports.. but that comes down to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I second this notion as well.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Really.. because I recall Planes of Power driving away more players than it brought in. Faster travel! Yea....newp. You actually needed it because the populations plummeted. I remember the same with adding rifts to Vanguard (though.. yeah that was minor compared to everything else wrong with...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I can think of few occasions where a group does not have forewarning of needing a replacement. 1.) Asshats 2.) LD 3.) RL emergency 4.) /ragequitting Asshats If there is a LFG tool, like Vanguard, that should be more than ample "assistance". Groups can put up "LFM" (Class type)...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Because people had/have a deeper bond with Brad's games than other games. 15 years passed. I've left EQ. Vanguard shuts down in 5 months. I've not deleted all my toons nor gave away their amassed hoards. I may not play them often. They are a part of me. I met my fianc?e there. I...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah... Though I also wonder how many of those will return throughout Alpha. Being through several Alpha developments, I'm sure half or more (still leaves an overly huge number) will disappear from Alpha after the first refresh. During Warhammer, I can recall several hundred throwing a...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    They're replacing the horrific intro vid finally. Reserving judgment intil the new one is up. Edit: ahh Ben just said they were replacing it with the Curse interview
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I hate to admit it but.... Boozecube's final point, in his last post, is exactly why theMMOForge's project lost steam. We were not about to crowdsource funds to get started. Who would back 3 unknown engineers and a lawyer to make a video game? (And we had, it seems, much better...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    VG still had camp/grind spots. I remember Ceros Ilse being a major place to sit for an entire play session. Pre-nerf Rhaz Inkur also had many the camp spot. There ought to be a balance though. Vanguard was VERY quest-hub driven. EverQuest did not have a "ton" of quests, especially post 20...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    +1 about the gnome. Quillmane wasn't -as bad- until people started moving away from the game/area. With each expansion, fewer and fewer groups would XP there at aviaks in South Karana, thus Quillmane became more and more of a bitch. (Track/time spawns/kill mobs/track/time spawns....) The...