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Where the problem lies is there is no class interdependence factor and there is no identifying factor. The example I've been using is teleports. Everyone remembers looking for wizards/druids to teleport them at one point in their career if they played EQ any considerable amount of time. They...

How has the other method worked for all the other mmorpg's in history since 2004? Flops can happen in both scenarios. I think generally when your #1 concern is money you're not going to make a game as good as if your #1 concern is to make a great game and know that money will follow it.

I loved SM and hated BRD but otherwise I agree with everything else you said. Game companies definitely seem to have it backwards. Focus should be make an AMAZING game and the money will come. Not focus on how can we make a game that makes the most money.

Would REALLY appreciate confirmation. As of now the multiclassing is my #1 biggest concern for the game. I just want some form of class interdependence. Like others have said I don't want to be a tank and be able to click a few buttons to swap out my abilities and become a healer on the fly...

That's not the point. I don't think anyone is worried cause they'll be forced to multiclass. People are worried that classes won't matter cause everyone can be everything. The same problem thats plagued many MMO's lately. Someone else mentioned it a few pages ago but remember seeing those wizard...

I don't understand how multiclassing works. Can you for example level up warrior to Tier 3 then do some task for some guy and acquire the cleric class and level that to tier 3 then swap back and forth between T3 cleric and warrior whenever you want? Or do you lose your "Tiers" in previous...

Anyone have any info on the world panel going on right now? Any liveblogs?

Dude we get it you're disappointed but give it a fucking rest. Go do something else for a while and come back when you calm down. Nobody wants to read this shit post after post after post. I'm pretty skeptical about a lot of the stuff we saw in that reveal too. It wasn't what I was expecting but...

Brilliant

Ya I'm watching it til EQN reveal. I'm pretty sure ESO will be crap but who knows maybe they'll make it good. I watched a friend play in beta and it wasn't very impressive.

I'd be interested to see if Ut knows anything as well. I'd bet money that he doesn't though.

Likely story. That's what I'd say too if I had no idea about anything and got called out on it :P

He doesn't actually know anything. Just basing everything on past experiences with SoE and the performance of a bunch of game developers and nerds on a stage performing. Edit: What Soygen said. Just betting on the odds.

+1 internets for you. Agreed 100%

I think some people are more excited about hating on the game than they are about the possibility that it'll be awesome. Everyone is so pessimistic it's depressing.

Yes

I cant wait for all the people that are crying about the music not being the original EQ1 theme to see the EQN reveal and cry about all the ways that EQN isn't EQ1: HD

I don't feel any differently whatsoever about EQN. I was really impressed with the music. Sure the show was pretty lame and corny but who cares. If you really think that pre-determines EQN's fate you're a special kind of dumb.

Twitch chat gem: Jackie Channeler inc

Are we pretending that anybody gives a single fuck about EQ2?

I'd prefer that over only people at SoE Live getting beta access which is what I'm afraid will happen.

Disagreed. If I care a lot about a game I won't be shy about calling out the things that are wrong with it.

Care to explain the logic used to come to this conclusion? Why wouldn't they want their biggest fans to get beta first?

Sounds like exactly the people that should get beta first :P

All I want is for tomorrow to come and me to have this reaction:

That'd be my guess. Something to do with player housing.

Does that mean the beta signups were real? Or just confirming it was indeed their site and those signups we did mean nothing?

I got that same message after I signed up. Then got a blank email.

Same I signed up and got an email thanking me for signing up for the eq1 Rain of Fear xpac beta ended back in April. I think somebody dun goofed on the SoE website.

Yeah I'd bet money on a D3 expansion announcement

So I just got an email saying ESO is gonna be livestreamed for the first time ever tomorrow at 1:30 PM EST. Lol seems like the ESO might be worried about EQN? :P

I don't understand. Are FPS games supposed to be complex?

Baseless assumptions are baseless. Unless you're one of the people that saw EQN at E3 I don't think you have any more idea than the rest of us whether it's accurate or not sir :P

Welcome to video games. We push buttons and things die. If you're holding your breath waiting for that to change I think you might be disappointed.

Except every game that's tried to move away from the holy trinity of classes has sucked. It's a tried and true formula for a reason.

The problem with that is the solution most MMO's have used to remedy that is "Dungeon Finder" type tools which completely destroy any sense of community that exists. I would hate to see EQN have a dungeon finder system similar to WoW's. I'd rather let players put together their own groups. What...

If the game comes out and it's amazing the word will spread like wildfire. They won't have to advertise it. It'll be posted about on countless community/guild forums and its F2P so many many people will download it just to test the waters. There's no risk (imo) of the game being awesome but...

This x10000. I'm so tired of hearing ppl cry about how they've grown up and RL is too busy for video games. I can guaranfuckingtee that if the game is awesome all those people will MAKE time for it. Stop wishing the game to be an instant gratification pile of shit just cause you're too busy for...

Is she even in the black box? What makes her more credible of a source than the president of SoE? Does she even lift?

As if Titan was the only competitor? Did you forget about Wildstar? ESO? As the above posters said. They need to strike while the iron is hot. Hypetrain is in full motion right now. If they wait til next year to launch it will have lost a LOT of steam.