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Chanur

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I know this is my internet home. Would not spend nearly as much time on the net if it was not for this.
 

Phazael

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is there really a difference?
There is, but its the exact opposite of what he is arguing. Using racial generalizations to poke fun of something someone is doing is not attacking them for their race, its making a fucking joke. I don't get pissed when someone makes bratwurst, potato salad, lederhosen, or alcoholic jokes because I am a kraut, because its partially true and therefor funny. Christ, I had even forgotten the term "panface" until Lanx himself started tossing it around lately (Rang Rang is my preferred go to slur for Asians) and found it hilarious because its such an antiquated slur, like "darkies" or "wetback" that no one ever actually uses it as a serious insult.

I mean seriously, I admit to being a little racist (everyone is), but I fail to see how anyone could read that post and think that I was not being intentionally over the top Tiggles caricature, unless they were looking for a reason to be offended. Given his own slurs, I thought Lanx wasn't that kind of guy, but evidently I read him wrong.
 

Lendarios

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Phazael Phazael you are very right in calling my lack of debate substance at times.

I am capable of well thought outs and successful arguments, if you can get past the inevitable spelling mistakes along the way. When I don't do it is because the person on the other side is not doing the same, or i am just trolling/lazy. It is very hard to tell the difference so i apologize for that.

It is hard, because there are 3-conversations happening at once, with 3 different individuals at the same time, some are interested in an argument, some are not.

Take today for example. I made the comment, of Obama's economy being fine after his tenure. Even Tuco agreed, that it is an accurate statement, that still didn't stop us from throwing shit about what "fine" really means.

Also sometimes my arguments are wrong. Lots of times .
 

Phazael

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Yeah I'd say calling an Asian a Faulty Armor is a bit over the line, especially since it was directed personally at him..
This I agree with, because its a current vernacular slur like the "N" word or "Chink". "Panface" has not been a part of the vernacular for over half a century. It would be like calling me a "Hun" or something.
 

zzeris

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I don't even mind Lend's ESL shtick. His arguments are usually shit(I'm sure he reciprocates) but I find him no worse of a poster than the average politics poster. The genetics shit can be excessive and if his response is butchering our language, then IDGAF. I still find the ignore button to be the best solution if you need to go that far, I've ignored Tolan for a few weeks now and it has improved the politics thread immeasurably. I don't even have to wonder when his next rickshaw expires now. Good stuff.
 

pharmakos

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yes, b/c in one instance (attacking a race in general) you're just doing an inclusive "all"

in the other there is YOU, where the drill down, is the specific member, it's the difference between spread vs concentrated, or in video game terms, the difference between a nazi w/ a mg42 lazying waste to a battlefield vs. a nazi sniper w/ a k98 mauser with the general in his sights.

one is more of a blanket, the other is a target.
but every collective is made up of individuals. and in your analogy, you're saying that pray and spray is a more acceptable strategy than sniping? idk man.
 

Phazael

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Sniping requires more skill and preperation to be effective, if we want to keep running with that analogy.
 

Sludig

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This I agree with, because its a current vernacular slur like the "N" word or "Chink". "Panface" has not been a part of the vernacular for over half a century. It would be like calling me a "Hun" or something.
I was wondering about the term. Like if course it's used in a mean way. But unlike some terms that are not really based in reality for a race, there are certain parts of Asian ethnicity that do have noticably extremely fast faces nose included. (Vs my unfortunate very punchable giant beak like jew nose) Actually noticed it watching a few random porns lately where the camera angle really highlighted it. Ditto for my first gf who was Thai.

Oh no a name based on an actual appearance? Boo hoo person that uses it in a serious manner is dumb.

What would be offensive is if like maybe someone went after Lanx making a comment more on how they think their house smells like fry oil, shit sauce and fish or something which would be a comment more directly just making assumptions that very well could be very untrue. I know a couple asian friends that are whiter than mr rogers and would faint in an Asian market and starve if they went with me to Taiwan.
 

pharmakos

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tried to walk away from the computer for a bit today, but had a thought i had to share.

wouldn't it make more sense for racism to be acceptable when aimed at an individual rather than a collective?

doesn't it make more sense to say "michael brown was a dumb ni--'american inventor'" than to say "all black people are dumb 'american inventors'"?
 

Mario Speedwagon

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I don't hear anyone whining when I get called a trailer trash sister fucking redneck for being a white West Virginian.

Also Lendarios Lendarios I don't think you should be a second class citizen. I think you should not be a citizen at all :emoji_upside_down:
 

Lendarios

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"I don't hear anyone whining when I get called a trailer trash sister fucking redneck for being a West Virginian. "

FTFY

 

Phazael

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tried to walk away from the computer for a bit today, but had a thought i had to share.

wouldn't it make more sense for racism to be acceptable when aimed at an individual rather than a collective?

doesn't it make more sense to say "michael brown was a dumb ni--'american inventor'" than to say "all black people are dumb 'american inventors'"?
This is actually the core of the issue. Every group has its asshole/useless demographic with the associated stereotypes that they live up to (and make the more normal ones cringe) for whatever reason. There are Black People and there are American Inventors. There are Latinos and there are Cholos. There are White People and there are Hillbillies. Applying those terms to the individual (in serious context) is simply saying they are adhering to the negative elements of their ethnicity. Where modern society is running into trouble is that it somehow has become forbidden to even remotely criticize the bad apple parts of groups for their stereotype adhering behavior. Its why the Ben Carsons and O7s of the world get overshadowed by thugs and BLMers. And its stopped the respectable elements of groups from self policing their own. I would even go as far as to say that hillbillies got protected status of a sort, looking at all the duck dynasty drama. That's a separate discussion, though.
 

chthonic-anemos

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ex, i mean i can only quote posts directed towards me, here are some just this week in order of anger to silly




Some of these theyre just including my race, cuz i guess they are so angry, they just want to do it to hurt me? with the inability to articulate any better, at least thats my experience.
1. Is Origin a dindu? he does seem angered by your calling him one
2. Phazael's post read's a lot like your own friendly racist humor posts and is not angry
3. Arayasar's post has gone too far. Never before has Amod so thoroughly tarnished the office of rerererereolled staff. There should be a new election immediately. Em peach mint now.
 

pharmakos

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3. Arayasar's post has gone too far. Never before has Amod so thoroughly tarnished the office of rerererereolled staff. There should be a new election immediately. Em peach mint now.
yeah!

say what you will about ching-chong school, at least they teach good manners.
 

pharmakos

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it's true, here is the post Origin was replying to:

Lol, you love sw, but haven't watched this shit fest garbage?

Yet you were disappointed w/ r1?

Dindu please, even astronauts get to watch star wars in space, you're just a pretend a fan.