Bridgerton

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Title: Bridgerton

Genre: Drama

First aired: 2020-12-25

Creator: Chris Van Dusen

Cast: Regé-Jean Page, Phoebe Dynevor, Julie Andrews, Jonathan Bailey, Luke Newton, Nicola Coughlan, Ruth Gemmell, Polly Walker, Golda Rosheuvel, Ruby Barker, Sabrina Bartlett, Adoja Andoh, Claudia Jessie, Harriet Cains, Florence Hunt

Overview: Wealth, lust, and betrayal set in the backdrop of Regency era England, seen through the eyes of the powerful Bridgerton family.
 

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Wife wanted to watch this. 1813 England and American Inventors, American Inventors everywhere. Queen American Inventor, American Inventor servants and asians!
 
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Wife conned me into watching this shit. Downton Abbey knockoff where a sheboon is the queen of England. Half the nobles are inventors. It's terrible.

But, I got a blowjob out of the deal and that's a price I'm willing to pay.
 
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Wife conned me into watching this shit. Downton Abbey knockoff where a sheboon is the queen of England. Half the nobles are inventors. It's terrible.

But, I got a blowjob out of the deal and that's a price I'm willing to pay.
The reason for all the nogs doesn't even make sense. King loved a jogger so they all were able to do stuff, like become nobility of old houses well before the queen could have been the queen.
 
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A preview thing came on for this while I was spending the Xmas break with family.

Seeing a tudor (?) setting England with upper class / ruling class people and 1/3rd of them are black

Without thinking I uttered " Why the hell are there black people?? "
 

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My girlfriend was told this was "softcore porn" and wanted to watch it with me. We made it about 15 minutes, fucking horrible trash.
 
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Shonda Rhimes is listed as an executive producers, which answers:

Why you know about it.
Why your wife wants to watch it.
The clunky "historical inaccuracies".
 
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I think the best thing to come out of the rampant SJW infection of modern TV and Movies is that I have gone back to reading books over watching TV. Also watching classic movies from a time before SJW. Example, wife and I watched "My Favorite Year" tonight on HBO Max. Peter O'Toole kills it and we have smoking indoors, women treated like sex objects, drinking in the office and discussions of "schlongs" in the office in front of female coworkers.
 
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Not sure what's worse. The blatant redneck racism in this thread or the fact any of you watched this shit.
 
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I haven't seen this show but is it history? Description makes it sound more like an alternate reality.
 

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I haven't seen this show but is it history? Description makes it sound more like an alternate reality.
No, it's blackwashing. I read that the books didn't have any of this and it was the producer of the show that decided to do it.
 
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Well Queen Charlotte was supposedly somewhat or possibly a good part black or at least had strong African features which partly we explained why she was known as a very very ugly queen.
 

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Well Queen Charlotte was supposedly somewhat or possibly a good part black or at least had strong African features which partly we explained why she was known as a very very ugly queen.
Thats just nonsense. Basis for that crap is like one picture.
 

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No, it's blackwashing. I read that the books didn't have any of this and it was the producer of the show that decided to do it.
I admit to being a reader of the bodice ripper genre since I was a teen, as well as having a degree in Medieval European and Middle Eastern history. The book series this was based on started around 2000. It is in a subgenre of Historical Romance called Regency Romance. Ergo, it is set in a specific period of time in England. One of the first things said about the male lead in the book is" "He was a sturdy, healthy boy with glossy brown hair and clear blue eyes."

There is nothing racist about being befuddled when a period piece set in a specific time in history has things in it that are inaccurate. And yes, obviously, everything in these books are not true, though the authors usually do extensive research to try to be as accurate as possible. The issue is they are making it impossible to ever tell an accurate historical story again because you can't have all white people in anything. In current year, you can't even make something about Henry VIII without making one of his wives black. I am fascinated and have studied in depth the Norman Conquest, but I guess I will never see a true representation of it on film again in my lifetime because of politics.

There are countless rich and fascinating books, historical events and mythological tales that take place in non-white European settings. I would love to see more of those put on film. There are even historical romances set in the British Isles and Europe and the Old West where one of the characters is not Anglo-Saxon/Caucasian and they actually deal with the discrimination that the individuals faced in that time period. Those are interesting. Randomly casting a non-white actor for a character that actually wasn't for no other reason than diversity points is just boring. Especially when nothing else about the character actually changes. And, especially when it is always white characters (and usually redheads - stop the ginger discrimination!) that are replaced in their own stories.

The Bridgerton books are one of the highest selling and most popular Romance series in this century. Instead of creating something new or using one of the other books/series I talked about, the showrunners/producers/directors, whatever are using an established, popular IP for their own agenda with no thought, care or even respect to the original material. Something we have seen over and over again in the last 10 years. Though, in this case, the author has come out with glowing praise for the changes. Whether she is obliged because of contract reasons or is on that side of the cultural spectrum, I have no idea.

My family are Irish/Scandinavian and Native American - my mom's grandparents were born and raised on a rez. I would be equally aggravated if it was either of them being replaced in a story.

And I know that was more than anyone in this thread cared about, but I thought I would bring the perspective of someone who has read the books.
 
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Ok, I was pretty much forced to watch this (wife is a Grey's fan) and I honestly thought they did about as good a job with it as they could have.

They talk about race exactly once in the first season to explain how blacks got positions of power and in typical Shonda fashion the reason is 'true love.' The conversation lasts 20 seconds and actually seems forced. 2 of the best 3 characters are black and it could honestly be much worse if they wanted it to be.
 

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The Bridgerton books are one of the highest selling and most popular Romance series in this century. Instead of creating something new or using one of the other books/series I talked about, the showrunners/producers/directors, whatever are using an established, popular IP for their own agenda with no thought, care or even respect to the original material. Something we have seen over and over again in the last 10 years. Though, in this case, the author has come out with glowing praise for the changes. Whether she is obliged because of contract reasons or is on that side of the cultural spectrum, I have no idea.
This 100% accurately describes SJWs;

 
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Well Queen Charlotte was supposedly somewhat or possibly a good part black or at least had strong African features which partly we explained why she was known as a very very ugly queen.

As long as you realize that this is nonsense, and the Vox or mother jones article you read claiming otherwise is completely made up trash, then ok.

This is queen Charlotte.

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