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To start:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...gulations.html

The regulation also says it would no longer permit individuals to grow their own marijuana, a move that Greenblatt says is unfair.
regulation where regulation isn't required.

basically, marijuana is still illegal for recreational use unless you can get permission (which the gov't now has direct control over). Nothing changes. Dealers will still be in force. Crimes will remain probably the same. Great policy.
 
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And the worst thread is back. Btw, once a medical marijuana grower gets arrested for growing their own and goes to court, they will win and the government will have to allow for personal and 'grown for' permits. It is inevitable and I would be willing to bet that it will be upheld at the Supreme Court.
 

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What, did you ever expect good, well thought out policy from the Conservatives? Several cabinet ministers have publicly stated that they couldn't give much of a fuck less about what "supposed" experts think about issues, they're going to legislate from the gut. To paraphrase, anyways. Just about all of their major policy initiatives have been shit. From refusing to acknowledge the coming recession and the need for stimulus, to cuts in the GST as opposed to income taxes, to their "law and order" policies, to trying to shut down Vancouver's safe injection site and refusing to allow others to be opened, to their dogged determination to ram the F-35 down the country's throat, their pissing away the Liberals' hard work in eliminating the deficit and getting back to surplus for half a decade, to their now dropped opposition to gay marriage, to quite possibly permanently destroying the country's "honest broker" international reputation with their unwavering, slobbering support of Israel, it goes on and on.

They've been an awful government with just about everything they've done. Maybe there's a couple things here or there that are okay, but none immediately spring to mind. I completely concede that the Liberals were corrupt as fuck, but at least they were competent and managed to do a decent job of running the country while funneling money to their friends. The Conservatives have virtually zero competent ministers outside of Flaherty, who I don't mind, and Harper, who is some sort of evil genius. He's smart, no question, but I agree with almost none of his policies outside of being moderately fiscally conservative.

The worst part is Harper is smart enough to know his limits. He's not going to cross any lines that will result in him getting labeled as a right wing nut job, like abortion. He's just going to incrementally chip away at things like he's been doing for the past 6+ years. The worst part is, he's only 53. We could have another decade or two of this shit if the NDP and Liberals can't get their shit together.
 

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this gov't goes an extra mile just to be a douchebag. its wonderful.
 

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I loved it when Marc Emery openly sold 2 Live Crew's banned album As Nasty As They Wanna Be at his City Lights bookstore here in town.

The man's a hero.
 

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Does anyone else find the "Idle No More" campaign to be incredibly ironically named? Like, does that mean they're gonna go out and get jobs finally?

Maybe it's just my racist self that finds it funny.
 

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what is canada like? compared to england and america, freedom wise?

England seems more advanced in it's "nanny" state path.
 

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I'd say somewhere in between the two, but really, it's not like there's some easy to measure metric of "freedom". In some areas we have a lot of stupid regulation, in others we don't. It also varies a lot from province to province. Canada is technically far more decentralized than either the UK or US, the provinces are much more independent than US states are for the most part.
 
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Us puts everyone in prison, thusly Canada=more free.England...well they have a bridge,so who knows, call it a tie.
Tie goes to Canada.
 

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Not news. Not news at all.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stor...ban-toews.html



"We're paying for that ourselves and by the same process, we're supporting local businesses in the community and on top of that we're making donations to local charities. So at the end of the day who's really getting hurt?" he said.

"If someone's in an outrage that I enjoy a piece of KFC twice a year, I would say their priorities may be a little askew."

The food drives were also an opportunity for inmates to make positive social contact with people on the outside, according to Catherine Latimer, executive director of the John Howard Society of Canada.

"This is not something to be discouraged, in fact it is something that we should try to encourage," Latimer said. "The more inmates are participating in pro-social contact, the more likely it is that they will continue to do so on the outside."

In a statement to CBC News, the Correctional Service of Canada said the overall policy of ordering food from outside for inmates is under review.

"Food drives were recognized to be a privilege and were managed as such," wrote CSC spokesperson Sara Parkes.

But with Toews directive and until the review is complete, take-out food orders from prisons are prohibited.
 

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That actually seems awesome. You shouldn't completely cut off prisoners from society and force them to form a micro-society entirely composed of prisoners. That's going to increase recidivism.
 
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Canadian politic thread? This must be the nicest, civil, apologetic political discussion ever!
 

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That actually seems awesome. You shouldn't completely cut off prisoners from society and force them to form a micro-society entirely composed of prisoners. That's going to increase recidivism.
Like I said, the Conservative government doesn't give a fuck about actual consequences or results of their policies. Just that they play well with their base and feel good in the gut.
 

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Like I said, the Conservative government doesn't give a fuck about actual consequences or results of their policies. Just that they play well with their base and feel good in the gut.
It really depends on where you live. If the Liberals are in power, the west gets fucked. NEP created so much resentment that the Reform Party formed. I'm Center, but you won't catch me voting Liberal with the amount of retards in there, and NDP will turn us into the Euro Crisis. Lesser of 4 evils I guess. Maybe one day the Liberals will stand for something other than whining, because I really do want to vote for them, but can't take myself serious everytime there is an election.
 

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A few things to say about your fear and just gonna address them by list.

A) NDP is not the same as European socialist. They are incredibly free-trade oriented.http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle5415494/

NDP is brimming with so much possibilities, with left leaning caucus who are adjusting to centrist market policy. That's a bonus.

B) NEP is old story. Liberal caucus has changed, Trudeau's extremist left policies are now history because they know they fucked up. Jean Chretien's Liberal gov't proved to be pragmatic, effective, and saved Canada from Mulroney's bullshit. Seriously, this guy ran under the disguise of balancing the budget, only to fuck himself & Canada with Constitutional referendum. He didn't follow through with his budget review.

If anything, I remember watching Conservative opposition (Harper) whining about the banking regulation, stifling free market and whatnot.

Kinda sad that Conservative caucus is devoid of talent, especially the cabinet.
 

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A few things to say about your fear and just gonna address them by list.

A) NDP is not the same as European socialist. They are incredibly free-trade oriented.http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle5415494/

NDP is brimming with so much possibilities, with left leaning caucus who are adjusting to centrist market policy. That's a bonus.

B) NEP is old story. Liberal caucus has changed, Trudeau's extremist left policies are now history because they know they fucked up. Jean Chretien's Liberal gov't proved to be pragmatic, effective, and saved Canada from Mulroney's bullshit. Seriously, this guy ran under the disguise of balancing the budget, only to fuck himself & Canada with Constitutional referendum. He didn't follow through with his budget review.

If anything, I remember watching Conservative opposition (Harper) whining about the banking regulation, stifling free market and whatnot.

Kinda sad that Conservative caucus is devoid of talent, especially the cabinet.
The Provincial NDP of British Columbia almost brought this province into the broke ass state of eastern provinces.

And come on, only reason NDP is the leader over the opposition is because Quebec voters don't even know what they want, only what they don't want. I'd be perfectly happy seeing Quebec leave Canada under the condition they pay their massive debt back, don't use the Canadian Dollar, and don't hamper the logistics with eastern provinces. No Canadians were sympathetic of the students striking, when they aren't even a labour union. And they receive such a large amount of transfer payments, its really sad that such a have not province tends to pump out so many politicians.

By all means I don't want the Conservatives in, but I rather see them over the NDP. Maybe the Liberals can pull the bullshit out of their ass, that last election was almost comical how poorly they tried to hide all their greed.
 

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provincial and federal politics are, well, not the same.
 

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Yup. Alberta Progressive Conservatives do NOT get along with the Federal Conservatives at all, and the Fed C's pretty much backed the Wildrose in the last provincial election. Provincial and Federal parties are only loosely affiliated. Both the Quebec and BC Liberals have more in common with the Federal Conservatives than they do the Federal Liberals.