Gene Editing and the Rise of Khan

wormie

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I think you underestimate the complexity emergent from the network formed by genes. We may not be able to decipher it and all our attempts will lead to cell death and nothing more. Or if not death, then something useless or horrible.
 

iannis

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I'm not saying we'll find alternatives. Or that we'll find them quickly. Or that they even exist. But they may. "maybe all of them" was the funny part. It's more like... no, it's OBVIOUSLY all of them. haha. Just we're not sure why sometimes. The natural process also selects for least effort most reward solutions to problems. There may be higher effort higher reward solutions which are also effective.

But that's the point of genetic research. in the coming decades we will begin to tackle those questions in specific and find answers to them.

For damn sure it's not something we could do in Current Year. Gotta start in Current Year though.
 
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iannis

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That's fair, it's a questionable word choice. Obvious is an assumption.

I think if you start with that assumption though it's easier to find places where it is false rather than the reverse. A simplification trick. Least effort most reward. I am a parsimonious person.

And of course nothing is monolithic. You also want to dovetail results with people pursuing the reverse. A comparison of the two assumptions will yield more than either assumption alone. That's at least historically true in the absence of singular genius.

I do wonder why (and I'm not saying it's stupid, I actually wonder why) and person would think that after millions of generations of reproduction there would be excess left inside the structures. Mutations, obviously, little errant bits, obviously, some byzantine complexity, probably. But straight excess? I think it would be culled. I think that because you would have mutations which are able to accomplish the same with less and that -should- result in a more favored structure. But hell, maybe it doesn't always.
 
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Cybsled

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I think at a certain point, though, there will be greater pressure to offer gene modification or designer microbiomes. Doesn't matter if you eat right or exercise, if you have shitty genes or a bad microbiome, you're still fucked in the long run.

It will start from a health and welfare concern, but once that is solved for and it has become the baseline, then it will quickly move into the more superficial realm.
 
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fanaskin

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Already happened!

that was actually a case of selective breeding, the chinese gov hooked up two super tall chinese people

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/yao-ming-the-basketball-giant-made-in-china-by-order-of-the-state-20060119-gdmsz0.html



the 205cm Yao Zhiyuan, soon found himself dragged into the sports system.

There he was paired off with the 182cm Fang Fengdi, China's women's captain who had been a feared Red Guard during the murderous Cultural Revolution.

The two were encouraged to marry in a system with undertones of eugenics, the controversial gene-pool manipulation espoused by the Nazis and previously trumpeted by Beijing.
 
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Aldarion

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The next step would be artificial wombs. If anyone ever manages to perfect one the society that comes out the other side of that invention will only bear a shallow resemblance to ours.
This is a good point, but don't forget: Herbert already covered this, too. Gene editing was actually the harder part. All you need for an artificial womb is to find a society that doesnt put a lot of stock in human rights, and to not get too picky about the artificial part.

Axlotl tanks are inevitable, too.

And you are 100% right that whatever emerges from these technologies will bear little resemblance to human society...
 
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This is a good point, but don't forget: Herbert already covered this, too. Gene editing was actually the harder part. All you need for an artificial womb is to find a society that doesnt put a lot of stock in human rights, and to not get too picky about the artificial part.

Axlotl tanks are inevitable, too.

And you are 100% right that whatever emerges from these technologies will bear little resemblance to human society...
I see your Axlotl tank and raise you a Daemonculaba.

Daemonculaba - 1d4chan
 

khorum

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Scientists have now successfully 3D-printed human muscle tissue into a viable human heart.

Telegraph said:
3D printed human heart created by scientists in transplant breakthrough

The first 3D printed heart with human tissue and vessels was unveiled by scientists who hailed it as a ‘major medical breakthrough’. The heart produced by researchers at Tel Aviv University is about the size of a rabbit's and is the first time anyone anywhere has successfully engineered and printed an entire heart with cells, blood vessels, ventricles and chambers.
3D printing human tissue was actually innovated in the US but restricted experimentation on stem cells put a brake on that. More Jew Tricks.
 

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khorum

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Just as porn drove the internet revolution, 3d printed organ technology will be driven by custom grown 12" dicks and 36dd tits.
It's just a matter of scale....if they can print a viable heart from your stem cells now, theres nothing keeping technology from building the rest of you from stem cells. They've been at this 3D printing organs for over a decade now actually, this was just the first attempt at a heart.

Then its just a matter of successfully transplanting you head onto the new body and it'll be time to defrost all those dead billionaires.
 

Mist

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I think you underestimate the complexity emergent from the network formed by genes. We may not be able to decipher it and all our attempts will lead to cell death and nothing more. Or if not death, then something useless or horrible.
Even if we can't decipher it because we're too stupid, machine learning eventually will.
 
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mtnhmr

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Approaches on organ donors appears to be on the up!


I wanna see CRSPR super babies...
 
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