Great 4x games?

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Currently have an itch to play a modern 4x game. The last one I really enjoyed was Civ4.

Currently have Stella's, but I guess I am missing something as I don't find it very fun.

Saw a new game that is supposedly a cross of Civ and CK called Old World that looks interesting.

Any here have any favorite 4x games that relatively newer and that they could recommend?
 
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Tide27 said:
Currently have an itch to play a modern 4x game. The last one I really enjoyed was Civ4.

Currently have Stella's, but I guess I am missing something as I don't find it very fun.

Saw a new game that is supposedly a cross of Civ and CK called Old World that looks interesting.

Any here have any favorite 4x games that relatively newer and that they could recommend?
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Civ VI is solid.
Distant Worlds: Universe is Stellaris on steroids.
Dominions 3 is solid.
 
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I think I still like Civ V a tad better than VI but still had a lot of fun with VI and districts are a neat addition. Old World is a new one that’s popped up and then there’s also Humankind which I think takes things in a little different direction than other 4x games.
 
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Kaines said:
Civ VI is solid.
Distant Worlds: Universe is Stellaris on steroids.
Dominions 3 is solid.
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Distant Worlds and Dominions 3 are great, and I have easily spent 100+ hours in both (Dom3 mods probably took it to 500+ hours).

I don't know how old "relatively newer" is though. So, Dominions 5 is probably as good as Dom 3, with some improved mechanics, and it came out in 2017 (for a newer Dom game).

That said, there haven't been that many great 4x games in the last ~5 years that I can recall.

Looking at steam I only see a few in the last 10 years:

Great:
Age of Wonders 3​
Distant Worlds: Universe​
Dominions 3/4/5​
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Good:
Civilization 6 - I've spent a decent chunk of time with it, but as long as they keep a leash on modders, no Civ game will be as good as Civ 4.​
Galactic Civilizations 3 - had a bad start, but Stardock powered through. I played it after ~1.5 years of patching, it was pretty good. They have had a few more updates since then.​
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Honorable mentions:
Total War: Warhammer 2 (and 1) - Is it 4X? Kinda... Maybe... it might scratch that itch​
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I played Old World a bunch and would consider it pretty good.
 
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I recommend Endless Legend. It requires a bit more micromanagement when it comes to units than a game like Civ, but it's a fantastic game with a great fantasy aesthetic and the cleanest UI you will ever see in a 4x game.

 
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Old World and Humankind are the two newer ones that I'd keep an eye on.
 
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Kriptini said:
I recommend Endless Legend. It requires a bit more micromanagement when it comes to units than a game like Civ, but it's a fantastic game with a great fantasy aesthetic and the cleanest UI you will ever see in a 4x game.

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In general I’m not a big fan of these types of games, but for whatever reason, Endless Legend really appealed to me.

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Nothing has ever beat Master of Magic for me.

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Nothing has ever beat Master of Magic for me.

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Slitherine bought Master of Magic about 8 to 9 months ago and employed some modder (didn't even know there was a mod for it) to continue and expand on the mod (the Caster of Magic mod (that they would release on steam)). I think they (Slitherine) said they are going to take a stab at a true successor to it as well.

I found, and played the free mod (from before the Slitherine deal), after I read that press release. It made some good additions to AI and balance; I played 3 or 4 full games with it.

Now the modder dude has been working on it full time and released a bunch of changes. I haven't played it, but a bigger map with up to 13 enemy mages and more spells sounds good.

It was released in April, so it's technically new!
 
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Burns said:
Slitherine bought Master of Magic about 8 to 9 months ago and employed some modder (didn't even know there was a mod for it) to continue and expand on the mod (the Caster of Magic mod (that they would release on steam)). I think they (Slitherine) said they are going to take a stab at a true successor to it as well.

I found, and played the free mod (from before the Slitherine deal), after I read that press release. It made some good additions to AI and balance; I played 3 or 4 full games with it.

Now the modder dude has been working on it full time and released a bunch of changes. I haven't played it, but a bigger map with up to 13 enemy mages more spells sounds good.

It was released in April, so it's technically new!
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Didn’t know about this. Going to buy a copy for me and one for my dad. We both used to play this together, hot seat.

I have an emulator for it and even bought the physical again just to have the book and box. It still holds up well.
 
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Burns said:
Slitherine bought Master of Magic about 8 to 9 months ago and employed some modder (didn't even know there was a mod for it) to continue and expand on the mod (the Caster of Magic mod (that they would release on steam)). I think they (Slitherine) said they are going to take a stab at a true successor to it as well.

I found, and played the free mod (from before the Slitherine deal), after I read that press release. It made some good additions to AI and balance; I played 3 or 4 full games with it.

Now the modder dude has been working on it full time and released a bunch of changes. I haven't played it, but a bigger map with up to 13 enemy mages and more spells sounds good.

It was released in April, so it's technically new!
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Well that was disappointing. Had four unhandled exception crashes in under a half hour of play. Refunded it but maybe I’ll give it another go some day in the future. Good to know it exists at least.
 
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I’m not sure if this is considered 4x or not but ive been playing the hell out of battle brothers lately while waiting on the next total war warhammer 2 DLC. Great game, very challenging. I would recommend all the DLC, it all adds a lot to the game.
 
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Well that was disappointing. Had four unhandled exception crashes in under a half hour of play. Refunded it but maybe I’ll give it another go some day in the future. Good to know it exists at least.
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That's unfortunate, I didn't have any issues with the old mod and the GoG edition of MoM.
 
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I am giving a hearty second recommendation for Age of Wonders 3. It is such a great game and I haven't met one person who played it and didn't love it.

I am not sure if Battle Brothers is really what you are looking for but it was mentioned and it is another fantastic game.
 
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If you can get past the trash tier graphics, I can strongly recommend Deity Empires, I got a lot of playtime and enjoyment out of that one.

Great fodder for the relentless min-maxer, with even ordinary troops being able to level up in interesting ways and use equipment, along with various tiers of heroes that are full-on RPG fodder with 16 equipment slots, skill trees etc.

Concept wise it's pretty much Master of Magic, just with more stuff.
 
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