Middle East and European Craziness Thread

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Two Syrian refugees beat up an Orthodox priest in Athens, Greece
The incident took place outside the Sanctuary of St. Nicholas in Patisia, Athens. When the priest was going to the Sanctuary he noticed that one motorcycle was illegally parked in the garden of the temple. After the priest complained to the Syrian owners about that, both the perpetrators started to beat him. As a result of the sudden attack the priest was injured. Until now the Greek police have arrested one suspect.
France: More than 1,000 cars burned during New Year's Eve
As it is every year, New Year's Eve was marked by overflows and many cars were burned. In Paris and in the suburbs the figures are the highest, reports BFMTV.

250 vehicles were burned, including about 50 by the spreading fire, according to the police. A figure higher than last year. Also during this gala night in the Paris region, 197 people were placed in custody for various reasons, reports Le Parisien.

The rest of the province has not been spared by this phenomenon. In Strasbourg, 75 vehicles were burned according to the Alliance police synonymous. Five cars were also burned in Rennes, according to Ouest France, which points out that the night was quieter than last year. In all, across the country, 1,031 vehicles were burned and 510 people were arrested in France, figures up from last year, said Monday the Ministry of the Interior in a statement posted on Twitter.

Police reinforcements had, however, been deployed in certain sensitive areas and wrecked vehicles and garbage containers had been removed for prevention and risk. Last year, 650 vehicles were burned throughout France.
Swedish Police Union calls fireworks ‘a threat to democracy’ after numerous attacks in suburbs
Before and during New Years Eve, the police in several cities in the country reported that they were subjected to rocket attacks by youth gangs. The incidents occurred in connection with calls to predominantly migrant-dominated “exclusion areas”. Now the Police Union is going out with a sharp remark which states that the phenomenon should be classified as “a threat to democracy”.

Rescue services, security guards and the public have also been subjected to the rocket attacks. On some occasions, the police have even been forced to retreat. In no case has any of the perpetrators been arrested. Chairman of the Police Union Lena Nitz, who is also a lawyer, says in a statement that she takes this kind of criminal activity very seriously:

“I believe it is a threat to democracy when those who are to protect and help others are attacked. In addition to causing harm, the attacks also risk hindering and delaying rescue operations”. In surveys, one in four police officers said that they have been subjected to firework and pyrotechnic attacks. “This cannot be dismissed as some boy prank, instead it is an “attack on the rule of law, “Lena Nitz states.

In the future, it will be illegal to sell fireworks to someone who does not have a special permit. The legislative amendment has been largely due to the widespread misuse of pyrotechnic articles in the country’s migrant dense “exclusion areas”. However, the Police Union is not convinced that the law will have the desired effect and fears that the gangs will get hold of fireworks regardless.
 
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I was gonna ask why you put that in this thread, but research out of israel. Yep.

Them Jews might be shifty, but they're smart too.

When the time comes I hope we either offer them Arizona or Utah. Now that would be fun, dropping twenty million hardcore jews into the salt lake. You know, just in case they miss fighting with palestinians. It doesn't seem like a jew will allow himself to be TOO comfortable.
 

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I was gonna ask why you put that in this thread, but research out of israel. Yep.

Them Jews might be shifty, but they're smart too.

When the time comes I hope we either offer them Arizona or Utah. Now that would be fun, dropping twenty million hardcore jews into the salt lake. You know, just in case they miss fighting with palestinians. It doesn't seem like a jew will allow himself to be TOO comfortable.
Put em in Arizona and tell them they need to protect the border. It'll be like home sweet home for them and we get some free border security.
 

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When the time comes I hope we either offer them Arizona or Utah. Now that would be fun, dropping twenty million hardcore jews into the salt lake. You know, just in case they miss fighting with palestinians. It doesn't seem like a jew will allow himself to be TOO comfortable.
LOL time comes for what? You think the Israelis are gonna just give up Israel without lobbing a few nukes? Word is they had a few nukes in the air in 1973 just in case Syria's tanks got past Golan.
 

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This is called the "Jericho option" and yes, rumour has it they rolled out their nuke capable ICBMs during the Yum Kippur war just in case. Rumour also has it that the nukes are not targeted at Israel's traditional enemies, but at European (and possibly US) cities with the thought that if Israel were to fall it would be because it's Western "allies" didn't help them enough. And if Israel were to fall they'd make damn sure Europe (and the US) would pay for it. This is said to be one of the reasons why Western politicians love Israel so much, as they have a gun to their heads.

Edit: sorry, it's called the Samson option. Jericho is the name of the Israeli ICBMs.
 
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This is called the "Jericho option" and yes, rumour has it they rolled out their nuke capable ICBMs during the Yum Kippur war just in case. Rumour also has it that the nukes are not targeted at Israel's traditional enemies, but at European (and possibly US) cities with the thought that if Israel were to fall it would be because it's Western "allies" didn't help them enough. And if Israel were to fall they'd make damn sure Europe (and the US) would pay for it. This is said to be one of the reasons why Western politicians love Israel so much, as they have a gun to their heads.
So Pakistan nukes Israel, which reply by nuking Europe & the US. What are they waiting for ?
 

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This is called the "Jericho option" and yes, rumour has it they rolled out their nuke capable ICBMs during the Yum Kippur war just in case. Rumour also has it that the nukes are not targeted at Israel's traditional enemies, but at European (and possibly US) cities with the thought that if Israel were to fall it would be because it's Western "allies" didn't help them enough. And if Israel were to fall they'd make damn sure Europe (and the US) would pay for it. This is said to be one of the reasons why Western politicians love Israel so much, as they have a gun to their heads.
And I thought Mario was retarded. Wooo boy.
 

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This is called the "Jericho option" and yes, rumour has it they rolled out their nuke capable ICBMs during the Yum Kippur war just in case. Rumour also has it that the nukes are not targeted at Israel's traditional enemies, but at European (and possibly US) cities with the thought that if Israel were to fall it would be because it's Western "allies" didn't help them enough. And if Israel were to fall they'd make damn sure Europe (and the US) would pay for it. This is said to be one of the reasons why Western politicians love Israel so much, as they have a gun to their heads.

Edit: sorry, it's called the Samson option. Jericho is the name of the Israeli ICBMs.
1. Enemies without nukes and reliant on conventional means need time to hit you. Even Egypt's blitz tactics were not going to hit Tel Aviv overnight. This means any attack by an enemy who lacks ICBMs will always include enough time window to retarget your own. Since these are neighbors and will not require orbital launches (eg like to hit Washington DC would), even easier.

2. The USA and the USSR were both holding massive nuclear arsenals and engaged in rampant proxy wars and espionage. Israel had a top notch espionage program, they aren't stupid, they know any outbreak violence might be provoked by a superpower. You aim nukes at the major players, you aim tanks at the camelfuckers.

3. Most of the middle east is built on urban centers (often with a spring), along rivers, or along coasts. Israel may have resembled something like New Jersey in density; most of the region was more like New York. When Egypt invades, their population is almost entirely concentrated in a few cities and along the Nile. The vast desert would be ignored. Same for Saudis etc. Only major nearby exceptions are Iran and sorta Turkey. So... you dont need a lot of ICBM targets to wreck 90% of egypt's population. Like, 4 may be overkill.

Israel had a reasonable and normal nuclear plan in place. Any sensible leader would have done similar.
 
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1. Enemies without nukes and reliant on conventional means need time to hit you. Even Egypt's blitz tactics were not going to hit Tel Aviv overnight. This means any attack by an enemy who lacks ICBMs will always include enough time window to retarget your own. Since these are neighbors and will not require orbital launches (eg like to hit Washington DC would), even easier.

2. The USA and the USSR were both holding massive nuclear arsenals and engaged in rampant proxy wars and espionage. Israel had a top notch espionage program, they aren't stupid, they know any outbreak violence might be provoked by a superpower. You aim nukes at the major players, you aim tanks at the camelfuckers.

3. Most of the middle east is built on urban centers (often with a spring), along rivers, or along coasts. Israel may have resembled something like New Jersey in density; most of the region was more like New York. When Egypt invades, their population is almost entirely concentrated in a few cities and along the Nile. The vast desert would be ignored. Same for Saudis etc. Only major nearby exceptions are Iran and sorta Turkey. So... you dont need a lot of ICBM targets to wreck 90% of egypt's population. Like, 4 may be overkill.

Israel had a reasonable and normal nuclear plan in place. Any sensible leader would have done similar.
But they're spooky magical Jews, yerm, who have super human genetic powers. You forgot to include that part in your analysis.

You are not woke sir, thus, you are hereby going to proceed to go broke.
 
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Stoked for Syria pull out. Sucks kurds will prob get murcked but life is full of hard decisions and compromises. Syrians I've met in refugee camps in Lebanon were afraid to go back due to all these scattered groups still owning this and that town. Let Assad consolidate it, ME isn't ready for democracy. Ideal situation which would be a real win for Syria/Europe would be for Assad to regain control and grant AMNESTY to Syrians who fled so they don't fear repercussions coming back. Trumps got the ball rolling, if we can get amnesty from Assad then it's a huge win.
 
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