Middle East and European Craziness Thread

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I was gonna ask why you put that in this thread, but research out of israel. Yep.

Them Jews might be shifty, but they're smart too.

When the time comes I hope we either offer them Arizona or Utah. Now that would be fun, dropping twenty million hardcore jews into the salt lake. You know, just in case they miss fighting with palestinians. It doesn't seem like a jew will allow himself to be TOO comfortable.
 

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I was gonna ask why you put that in this thread, but research out of israel. Yep.

Them Jews might be shifty, but they're smart too.

When the time comes I hope we either offer them Arizona or Utah. Now that would be fun, dropping twenty million hardcore jews into the salt lake. You know, just in case they miss fighting with palestinians. It doesn't seem like a jew will allow himself to be TOO comfortable.
Put em in Arizona and tell them they need to protect the border. It'll be like home sweet home for them and we get some free border security.
 

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When the time comes I hope we either offer them Arizona or Utah. Now that would be fun, dropping twenty million hardcore jews into the salt lake. You know, just in case they miss fighting with palestinians. It doesn't seem like a jew will allow himself to be TOO comfortable.
LOL time comes for what? You think the Israelis are gonna just give up Israel without lobbing a few nukes? Word is they had a few nukes in the air in 1973 just in case Syria's tanks got past Golan.
 

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This is called the "Jericho option" and yes, rumour has it they rolled out their nuke capable ICBMs during the Yum Kippur war just in case. Rumour also has it that the nukes are not targeted at Israel's traditional enemies, but at European (and possibly US) cities with the thought that if Israel were to fall it would be because it's Western "allies" didn't help them enough. And if Israel were to fall they'd make damn sure Europe (and the US) would pay for it. This is said to be one of the reasons why Western politicians love Israel so much, as they have a gun to their heads.

Edit: sorry, it's called the Samson option. Jericho is the name of the Israeli ICBMs.
 
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This is called the "Jericho option" and yes, rumour has it they rolled out their nuke capable ICBMs during the Yum Kippur war just in case. Rumour also has it that the nukes are not targeted at Israel's traditional enemies, but at European (and possibly US) cities with the thought that if Israel were to fall it would be because it's Western "allies" didn't help them enough. And if Israel were to fall they'd make damn sure Europe (and the US) would pay for it. This is said to be one of the reasons why Western politicians love Israel so much, as they have a gun to their heads.
So Pakistan nukes Israel, which reply by nuking Europe & the US. What are they waiting for ?
 

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This is called the "Jericho option" and yes, rumour has it they rolled out their nuke capable ICBMs during the Yum Kippur war just in case. Rumour also has it that the nukes are not targeted at Israel's traditional enemies, but at European (and possibly US) cities with the thought that if Israel were to fall it would be because it's Western "allies" didn't help them enough. And if Israel were to fall they'd make damn sure Europe (and the US) would pay for it. This is said to be one of the reasons why Western politicians love Israel so much, as they have a gun to their heads.
And I thought Mario was retarded. Wooo boy.
 

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This is called the "Jericho option" and yes, rumour has it they rolled out their nuke capable ICBMs during the Yum Kippur war just in case. Rumour also has it that the nukes are not targeted at Israel's traditional enemies, but at European (and possibly US) cities with the thought that if Israel were to fall it would be because it's Western "allies" didn't help them enough. And if Israel were to fall they'd make damn sure Europe (and the US) would pay for it. This is said to be one of the reasons why Western politicians love Israel so much, as they have a gun to their heads.

Edit: sorry, it's called the Samson option. Jericho is the name of the Israeli ICBMs.
1. Enemies without nukes and reliant on conventional means need time to hit you. Even Egypt's blitz tactics were not going to hit Tel Aviv overnight. This means any attack by an enemy who lacks ICBMs will always include enough time window to retarget your own. Since these are neighbors and will not require orbital launches (eg like to hit Washington DC would), even easier.

2. The USA and the USSR were both holding massive nuclear arsenals and engaged in rampant proxy wars and espionage. Israel had a top notch espionage program, they aren't stupid, they know any outbreak violence might be provoked by a superpower. You aim nukes at the major players, you aim tanks at the camelfuckers.

3. Most of the middle east is built on urban centers (often with a spring), along rivers, or along coasts. Israel may have resembled something like New Jersey in density; most of the region was more like New York. When Egypt invades, their population is almost entirely concentrated in a few cities and along the Nile. The vast desert would be ignored. Same for Saudis etc. Only major nearby exceptions are Iran and sorta Turkey. So... you dont need a lot of ICBM targets to wreck 90% of egypt's population. Like, 4 may be overkill.

Israel had a reasonable and normal nuclear plan in place. Any sensible leader would have done similar.
 
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1. Enemies without nukes and reliant on conventional means need time to hit you. Even Egypt's blitz tactics were not going to hit Tel Aviv overnight. This means any attack by an enemy who lacks ICBMs will always include enough time window to retarget your own. Since these are neighbors and will not require orbital launches (eg like to hit Washington DC would), even easier.

2. The USA and the USSR were both holding massive nuclear arsenals and engaged in rampant proxy wars and espionage. Israel had a top notch espionage program, they aren't stupid, they know any outbreak violence might be provoked by a superpower. You aim nukes at the major players, you aim tanks at the camelfuckers.

3. Most of the middle east is built on urban centers (often with a spring), along rivers, or along coasts. Israel may have resembled something like New Jersey in density; most of the region was more like New York. When Egypt invades, their population is almost entirely concentrated in a few cities and along the Nile. The vast desert would be ignored. Same for Saudis etc. Only major nearby exceptions are Iran and sorta Turkey. So... you dont need a lot of ICBM targets to wreck 90% of egypt's population. Like, 4 may be overkill.

Israel had a reasonable and normal nuclear plan in place. Any sensible leader would have done similar.
But they're spooky magical Jews, yerm, who have super human genetic powers. You forgot to include that part in your analysis.

You are not woke sir, thus, you are hereby going to proceed to go broke.
 
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Stoked for Syria pull out. Sucks kurds will prob get murcked but life is full of hard decisions and compromises. Syrians I've met in refugee camps in Lebanon were afraid to go back due to all these scattered groups still owning this and that town. Let Assad consolidate it, ME isn't ready for democracy. Ideal situation which would be a real win for Syria/Europe would be for Assad to regain control and grant AMNESTY to Syrians who fled so they don't fear repercussions coming back. Trumps got the ball rolling, if we can get amnesty from Assad then it's a huge win.
 
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Finland and Ireland top the charts for the highest number of ISIS fighters per Muslim population
A whitepaper jointly produced by the Northwestern University in Illinois and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem shows that Finland and Ireland hold the top two slots for the number of ISIS fighters in the world relative to the size of their Muslim populations.

The paper published in May of last year states that the total number of ISIS foreign fighters from India, Indonesia and Pakistan (with a combined population of over 560 million Muslims) is just 793 , lower than the total number of ISIS foreign fighters from Austria, Finland, Denmark, Ireland, Norway and Sweden who jointly have less than 1.4 million Muslim residents but are the countries of origin for over 900 ISIS foreign fighters.

Finland has the largest number of ISIS foreign fighters relative to its muslim population , followed by Ireland, Belgium, Sweden, and Austria.The research found that the number of ISIS fighters is positively correlated with a country’s GDP per capita and Human Development Index (HDI). The wealthier a country is, the more ISIS fighters it will have . Finland’s GDP per capita in 2010 was equal to $46,205, and it has a Gini coefficient of 27.1, which makes it not only one of the wealthiest countries in the world but also the 11th most egalitarian. Likewise Norway, which ranks fourth worldwide in terms of equality and in the top fifth percentile in GDP per capita, is in the top ten countries with the most ISIS fighters relative to its Muslim population. Belgium and Sweden, which rank third and fourth in the number of ISIS fighters are respectively the 12th and 15th most egalitarian countries in the world .

Another contributing factor says the research is a country’s population size and the size of its Muslim population . According to the estimated coefficients, a 10% increase in the size of the Muslim population (relative to its mean) increases the probability that the country has a positive number of ISIS foreign fighters by 1.2 percentage points.
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The alleged perpetrator ran away from the crime scene but is now in custody. What the dispute between the two was about is still unknown.
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