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mkopec

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Its funny how he harps on this countrys economic system, yet the motherfuclker played it and played it well enough become a fucking millionaire peddling stupid socialist movies and now hes rubbing elbows with hollywood elites. Im sure hes giving all that money away.
 

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Let's elect a president that doesn't know how one is elected in this country. Sounds about right. Oh wait, nope.
Hillary did fuck all to campaign in the Rust Belt states and her husband played a huge role in fucking over that part of the country with bad trade deals but still battered housewife Michael Moore thinks Hilldog and the Democrats really do care. More than maybe anyone he wished for a politician that would tackle the decay he saw in his home state and somehow someway that wish was granted.

There's no going back on this now, Michael. You prayed. He came. If he's not presidential enough for you, if he's in the wrong party, if he isn't the paragon of moral virtue you always dreamed your savior to be well that's just too fucking bad. If you have to be drug kicking and screaming now that you are getting what you've wanted since you made Roger and Me back in nineteen-eighty godddamn nine so be it. We'll drag you.
 

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I thought Dukakis in the helmet riding a tank was bad. But calling approximately 50% of the country you want to get elected to run as "deplorables" is exponentially past that in the dumb category. Scary part is how close she got to having the keys to the bank that she robbed for years and years.
 

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Hillary did fuck all to campaign in the Rust Belt states and her husband played a huge role in fucking over that part of the country with bad trade deals but still battered housewife Michael Moore thinks Hilldog and the Democrats really do care. More than maybe anyone he wished for a politician that would tackle the decay he saw in his home state and somehow someway that wish was granted.

There's no going back on this now, Michael. You prayed. He came. If he's not presidential enough for you, if he's in the wrong party, if he isn't the paragon of moral virtue you always dreamed your savior to be well that's just too fucking bad. If you have to be drug kicking and screaming now that you are getting what you've wanted since you made Roger and Me back in nineteen-eighty godddamn nine so be it. We'll drag you.
I'm voting for leaving him behind.

Have you TRIED dragging 600 pounds of dead weight manflesh recently? Its not as easy as it looks in the movies. I don't like him anywhere near that much, and he's not important.

His story is not complex or even unusual. He started off idealistic, I believe that to actually be true. Michael Moore as a young man believed in something, he had principled convictions. But as soon as he started to get money and legitimacy (just as important as the money, and probably more important the more money he accrued) his focus shifted. I think the same thing happened to Sharpton and Jackson. You can't know what the money is going to do to you if you've never had it and in the vast majority of individuals it's an awful lot more important than they want to believe it is. No one wants to think they're so easily bought, and the people who think they aren't usually come the cheapest.
 
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Hillary did fuck all to campaign in the Rust Belt states and her husband played a huge role in fucking over that part of the country with bad trade deals but still battered housewife Michael Moore thinks Hilldog and the Democrats really do care. More than maybe anyone he wished for a politician that would tackle the decay he saw in his home state and somehow someway that wish was granted.

There's no going back on this now, Michael. You prayed. He came. If he's not presidential enough for you, if he's in the wrong party, if he isn't the paragon of moral virtue you always dreamed your savior to be well that's just too fucking bad. If you have to be drug kicking and screaming now that you are getting what you've wanted since you made Roger and Me back in nineteen-eighty godddamn nine so be it. We'll drag you.
This is the kind of shit that makes Moore a total piece of shit. Trump does, word for word, what you were hoping politicians would do since 1988. It has been your singular message and rallying cry for 30 years. You proselytize this issue for your entire career and become a millionaire because of it.

The very second someone comes around and actually does it. You do everything in your power to get rid of him for a variety of stupid factors and shit on your Michiganders you claim to love so much for wrongthink.

Piece of shit.
 

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This is the kind of shit that makes Moore a total piece of shit. Trump does, word for word, what you were hoping politicians would do since 1988. It has been your singular message and rallying cry for 30 years. You proselytize this issue for your entire career and become a millionaire because of it.

The very second someone comes around and actually does it. You do everything in your power to get rid of him for a variety of stupid factors and shit on your Michiganders you claim to love so much for wrongthink.

Piece of shit.
He's running a successful business. Don't hate the guy. He's making the best move for himself, for all we know he might have voted Trump because that'd make him a few more millions.
It's not like he's a shitty huffpost journalist living from Soros charity and more in debt from her white oppression degree than a small african country.
 
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No, because the faction which destroyed Iran, the Tudeh, was essentially the primary force which backed Mossadegh when he dismissed his OWN national front in parliament and seized power, becoming a dictator which even his OWN fucking party condemned him for. The Shah's "coup" was a reaction to that event, and it was not a fucking coup--the Shah used a rule in the constitution to dissolve Parliament and thus his position as Prime Minister, The Tudeh and Mossadegh said, and I'm not kidding, "the rule wasn't fair" so they intended to ignore it (The rule in the constitution they cited to come to power).

They lost that power struggle and some assholes in Hollywood called it a "coup" because the CIA helped the Shah. But our contribution was WAY overblown by fucking idiots who wanted to pin these power struggles on America, overall Ajax had a tiny budget and only really was an advisory campaign. The Shah won out because people were sick of the Tudeh's shit, their land reform and oil nationalization had been a fucking disaster. Even without the British blockade, it turned out the equipment and engineering were way beyond their ability. Combined with sweeping food shortages because farms were given to people who didn't know how to fucking farm (People, shocker, affiliated with Tudeh/Mossadegh).

The Shah took power, and Iran flourished, modernizing and liberalizing at an amazing pace. By every metric we can measure, life improved considerably for the average person--while the Shah was a dick to the people who backed the tyrant. The Tudeh, the leftists, were so fucking Butthurt they backed the Shia Muslims who they had opposed during Mossadegh's original rise to power and for the next 25 years built up the Iranian revolution to overthrow the Shah.

Iran is a product of leftists who tried to seize power permanently once they achieved it democratically and couldn't stand being denied their tyranny so fucking much that they destroyed their country and turned it into an Islamic fundamentalist nightmare. Iran is a product almost solely of socialism and Islam. Had you removed socialism, and the Tudeh, Iran would be a modern, liberal nation right now.

But people like you don't know the history. You read some NPR garbage about how "the CIA overthrew the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT" and that article won't explain to you how Mossadegh was a tyrant who dissolved government first so he could remain in power when his own party lost confidence in him. They won't tell you the full story, only the narrative that produces your stupid fucking belief because protecting your ideology of jealousy and envy is more important than truth.
The Shah really was a pretty interesting guy. No question he was a totally arrogant fucking asshole as well though. He drug Iran into the 20th century and those faggots bitched and moaned every step of the way.

Back in the early 60's my grandfather went to Iran to assist in brokering a lumber deal from Coos Bay, Oregon (of all places) to Iran. The intent of the Shah was to build a bunch of relatively lower cost wooden houses and then make his goatfucking population who wouldn't get out of their fucking tents live in them like civilized people.

Like anywhere, the elite of Iran had it good but the average Mohammad was literally living in fucking tents cooking over open fires well into the 20th century. Even now in the 21st century living in a tent and shit is considered manly and highly masculine/traditional by most of the Arab World. Anywho The Shah's people were getting tired of building these houses only to have the tent living goatfuckers go inside of them. Ignore the modern stove entirely and start an open fire in the middle of the living room and burning the place down.

The United States also had to supply labor because the peasant superstitious medieval goatfuckers were terrified of things like electric saws and what have you. Outside of Tehran it seriously might well have been the 16th century or something.

Just by this alone the Shah was an unbelievable disruptive force to Iran.
 

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Yeah, remembering shit you said must be tough for you. It's kinda your game. Doesnt change the fact your on your knees for Regean and his CONSERVATIVE republican idiology is what made the middle east what it is today.
more solid to say middle east is where it is today cause of jimmy carter and his erudite staff making the middle east national security for the US, it's literally called the carter doctrine, you sad sad man who knows nothing.


if you really want to get into it, middle east borders are where they are today cause of WW1

Reagan is like #20 on "why the middle east where it is today" list
 

fanaskin

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Either way, I just want you in here to keep defending Conservative Republicanism.
oh this is bullshit, progressive erudite woodrow wilson did more to fuck things up than all those people combined. international interventionism has alot of progressive participants ye of small mind.
 
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