World of Warcraft: Current Year

Oh, class halls. You could do that with every class. In BfA? One and done. Similar with artifact weapons, even within one class you had three different sets of missions for each weapon, all with interesting lore and background. All of which was expanded upon later in the expansion.

Coming into legion late gives a false sense of what that expansion was like, given they opened everything up for you once you hit 110. Even the base questing was more involved than BfA. I also appreciated being able to do 3 WQ's in a small area vs having to go to opposite ends of an area in BfA. Or simply farming WQ's, you could go from one to the next with little downtime and minimal flight path time. BfA a lot more time is spent traveling between each one. Also, diversity of objectives is also especially minimized. The Azerite WQ's in BfA are inconsequential. It takes so many more to level up your necklace compared to Concordance on your artifact weapon. Also WQ's refreshing almost immediately with gold rewards vs literally running out of WQ's in BfA because they restricted reputation gains.

In legion I could farm WQ's for gold and AP to keep up with flask, potion and food requirements for raiding. I don't play the auction house game, so I don't have millions of gold, thus in BfA I'm starved, and with little else encouraging farming WQ's, especially without the bonus boxes for reputation that were added at just the right time in legion, while they've been pointless for too long in BfA (to be added in 8.1).

II should also note I've killed the world boss every week for almost three months and spent a token, only to receive AP and gold. At least in legion I might get a tmog piece. The lack of importance to AP and minimal gold reward (lol 23g) makes things feel extremely fucking pointless. I wanna say you got the same amount of gold at the end of Mists, but you had a half dozen world bosses to kill, who also had a chance for mounts.

The Warfront mission named give you toys or pets, and two different mounts. I've already got the ass.

Again, the escalation of power in Legion felt tangible. Coming in at the end where that power was basically handed to you, is still better than it feels in BfA.

Khane said:

This expansion is objectively bad. They did the same thing with this expansion that they did with Cataclysm. Took everything people loved about the previous expansion and iterated on it... regressively.

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To be fair to Cata, they wanted to make things harder in an effort to capture the vanilla experience, on top of redesigning the entire original world and every original dungeon optimized, massive increase of visual fidelity, and improving the leveling experience. The former was implemented too harshly after the dungeon rush at the end of Wrath that felt like running rifts in Diablo, without an equivalent time to reward. It was the first time running dungeons became pointless. Cata, just like WOD, failed to hold a proper time-line of additional content, with very long periods of stagnation. The stagnation of BfA started immediately after you cleared the available quests and ran each dungeon once. The phasing in Cata, while being an issue with grouping, made the world feel impacted by your actions. We saw this in Wrath with folks who hadn't completed the intro to the Wrath gate when summoning to ICC, but back then it didn't matter. And ultimately it didn't matter anyway, because no one really groups to do the base questing storyline anyway. We haven't seen that technology used as heavily since.

BoozeCube said:

Honestly to me it feel like there are 20 different teams working on different parts of the game and none of them even talk to each other. The reward structure it so fucking ass backwards I don't even know how 90% of it got through beta. You can see time and time again with even simple shit like timewalking that they don't even test the shit before putting it out. Or if they do it's such a group of incompetent cunts they don't even pay attention. You can see this in the M+ affixes and shit too. It's like some GM dickwad gos in poweroverwhelming and 1 shots an instance and goes well this feels good. These fucking cunts dont deserve a job at McDonalds.

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Working in a company within a software development team I can clearly see how there's a separation of communication, and it requires critical players to ensure development works in concert vs isolated silos. Blizz lost or reallocate the folks that were the cohesive glue between things. It's never been more obvious.

Khane said:

They have actually been starting to make strides and seem to be actively listening since Blizzcon.

I just don't understand why it took them so long.

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That's assuming they've needed to or ever have before. It has taken this extreme low for the people to speak loudly enough for them to actually pay attention. The player annoyances and lowly subscriber rates prior haven't been nearly as loud or as low.