Araxen
Golden Baronet of the Realm
- 10,231
- 7,575
World of Warcraft: Current Year
- Thread starter hodj
- Start date
- 2,605
- 4,143
- 718
- 1,146
It's an actual described phenomenon called the Peter Principle. Basically in any system where you are promoted based on merit, you will naturally tend to stop being promoted once you are put into a position you are no longer excellent at. In that system everyone would ideally be in the n-1 position.
- 2
Big Phoenix
Pronouns: zie/zhem/zer
- 44,538
- 92,942
The pretentiousness.
These companies and people are making fucking loot box simulators, not developing spy planes.
- 4
Tearofsoul
Ancient MMO noob
- 1,791
- 1,256
Zindan
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
- 6,614
- 4,405
Tearofsoul
Ancient MMO noob
- 1,791
- 1,256
Daidraco
Golden Baronet of the Realm
- 9,180
- 9,291
Sounds depressing - but I'm pretty sure the Rift Alpha FoH Guild had the most support/participation than its ever had (outside of original EQ). Had a ton of fun back then. Was a mix of wanting something new and being part of the Alpha, I .. think? Too bad the game had no staying presence.
kaid
Blackwing Lair Raider
- 4,647
- 1,187
Rift may not have knocked it out of the park but it got launched and made them a pretty solid amount of money and is still up and running and presuamably generating revenue. That is a lot more than a lot of games *cough pantheon* are ever able to say.
- 3
Rift was very good and did very well financially. Didn't Hartsman leave or get promoted to CEO or something not long after Rift launched? Rift's biggest problem was that its expansions were lackluster and each of those got progressively worse. Then the loyalty loot box system didn't do them long term favors either I think. I am also not sure if going F2play helped either. Also the majority of Trion content they made with Rift money didn't do too well either. Trove and that shooter game that had a sci-fi series.Arche Age may have done okay for them.
EDIT: Just to add that Hammerknell is one of the best raids in any MMO ever.
EDIT: Just to add that Hammerknell is one of the best raids in any MMO ever.
- 2
- 1
He was the Rift lead dev and left, came back to helm Trion.
\
EDIT: To add Rift launched Mar 1st, 2011 and Scott left in Jan 2013.
Ex- Rift lead returns to Trion as head of company
"We're going to rapidly be laying the groundwork for a new strategy," returning executive Scott Hartsman told Trion Worlds in an email to the company, as former CEO Lars Buttler shifts to new role on the board.
www.gamasutra.com
EDIT: To add Rift launched Mar 1st, 2011 and Scott left in Jan 2013.
- 2
Muligan
Trakanon Raider
- 3,212
- 892
I really enjoyed Rift in the beginning and actually brought several of my EQ friends with me only to get ridiculed to this day for how bad the game ended up. I really think it could have been a great game. I'm not sure what happened or who made the calls but I stand by it was solid initially. WAR was too. They also made some bonehead decisions that I still don't understand.
Hartsman made some great calls, at least he gets credit for them, with EQ2. Still some of my best times in a MMO.... which again was ultimately ruined by someone.
Hartsman made some great calls, at least he gets credit for them, with EQ2. Still some of my best times in a MMO.... which again was ultimately ruined by someone.
- 2
He did an ok job on eq2 but still left a game that was critically flawed from ability bloat among many other things.
In rift it was a good game but fell into the trap of having ultra hard ddr raid content and started to ignore its rifts and pvp. All in all it was a bad wow clone. Not sure how much those decisions are him but it would be nice to know he isn’t just going to give us another wow clone with a gimmick that gets ignored that fails.
In rift it was a good game but fell into the trap of having ultra hard ddr raid content and started to ignore its rifts and pvp. All in all it was a bad wow clone. Not sure how much those decisions are him but it would be nice to know he isn’t just going to give us another wow clone with a gimmick that gets ignored that fails.
- 2
Daidraco
Golden Baronet of the Realm
- 9,180
- 9,291
A lot of MMO's in that time frame were WoW clones. Some parts of Rift I believe were straight rips. Like the Warrior tree had almost the same exact abilities and it was hilarious. But they had a lot of innovation too. Chloromancer as the best example I can think of, but more etc. I had more fun leveling in that game than I did in say.. Wildstar or something. But you're right, they really dropped the ball on Rifts.. which, bro.. thats the name of your game?...