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Allow me to clear up some shit so people can (maybe) stop reinforcing each other's delusions. Ford. Did. Not. Dig. Up. The. Town. In episode 2 Ford talks with the boy and we see the buried church. In episode 4 Ford has his talk with Teresa while having lunch, we see the big machines digging...

No. Again, let's not make shit up. It's actually the second episode, and what she says to William is "Everything is bespoke and exactly your size." Also, William doesn't get the gray shirt there, he picks out some pinkish checkered shirt.

If there are two timelines Clementine would also have to have been around for 30 years. Which would make Delores barely older than both of them.

You're wrong. Watch it again. Edit: Saved you the trouble. You're welcome. Now let's at least stick to only facts and wild theories. No misinformation necessary, lol.

The whole fly bit was just to illustrate to the audience that Delores was no longer bound by her programming. Why would a host bother to wave a fly away unless it was programmed to be annoyed by the fly crawling on its "skin"? I let a lot of this kind of stuff go, because we are dealing with...

Sure. A guest can also get punched in the face, fall wrong and get his skull caved in or break his neck. Which is why they sign a waiver. The point is, the host wasn't going to intentionally kill Logan.

Once you've rendered someone unconscious through either lack of air, or blood to the brain, you still need to deprive their brain of oxygen for a significant amount of time before any brain damage or death occurs. Most people don't know this because most movies and tv make it much shorter. He...

That wasn't fear of torture or death, it was fear of boredom. He's prolly gonna be locked in a cell and unable to fuck any whores until a hero host rides in to save the day.

Other evidence? The only evidence supporting the theory is imagination and supposition.

Exactly.

They don't have to feel it to show it.

There's no reason, if you are designing Westworld hosts, to take the immense amount of time it would take to make a hosts actually experience pain, when it's so much simpler to just program them to react as a human would to physical stimuli.

That being said, I would not condone torture or rape of the same. Not out of any empathy for the machine, but because any human that takes enjoyment from doing that is sick. Just playing a RL game is not the same to me, as long as it's just simulated killing. But, we are gamers, we are used to...

To me, no different than killing an npc in Dark Souls. It's not alive, it's just a simulation of a human.

What's so evil about treating a machine like a machine? They aren't supposed to be sentient. I mean, yeah, with the way AI is portrayed in fiction it's easy to believe that they have human emotions, but they really don't. It's why I have a love/hate with this kind of sci-fi.

Problem is, he doesn't know how to change it. Either Eobard did something, or it's some stupid Time side effect. Not really enjoying this season. They should just change the name of the show to "Emotional Crisis on Infinite Earths."

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Enjoyed the second ep as much as the first. Only issue I have is the chic who speaks horrible english. I feel like all her scenes are rather bland and unecessary, or that could just be her acting that feels that way. Just stands out really bad considering how well everyone else is doing.

Yes, but still part of the park. The way the new guy was acting, he'd never seen a host/robot before.

I think it was the two whores who actually had that conversation? Not sure either.

Pretty sure her boobs were cast, and the rest of her just came along.

But Joe and Barry's dad were friends before Barry's mom is murdered. Yet, he never met Iris before (when they were kids) and told her that he only knew Joe from work. Does not compute.

Problem with dealing with non-real tech in science fiction, the tech will do whatever the writers need it to. Also, while they may have a consultant or two, I doubt any of the writers has a serious grasp on the limitations of computer programming. Probably just rely on what they've seen/read in...

Ergo goonie goo goo, mothafucka. ;)

It's because of the era of movies/tv we live in, we all expect twists in everything we watch, so we don't trust the narrative. It's gotten quite annoying. You don't need an omg twist to tell a good story.

Yeah, I don't get this new Iris issue bullshit, everything should be as it was. Is Time punishing Barry for fucking with the past? Bleh. Also, I'm confused. In the alternate timeline, Barry and Iris didn't know each other, and he only knew Joe from work (let's ignore the silly fact that Barry...

Yep. And how Harris knew exactly how much "blood" he could drain without killing the host he was interrogating.

They breathe, but it's just to appear human, I doubt they need to. I would think they don't "die" they just shutdown/go into "death mode" when something happens to their body that would kill a human. So, just simdeath.

To possibly refute my own statement, I just noticed that the title of the premiere is "The Original." Edit: Yeah, I'm probably wrong, just rewatched the scene between Harris and Dolores, what he says to her does seem to imply that she's been around that long.

In the comics (from the wiki) Clariss gets his superspeed from a serum he creates, supposedly the same one that Jay Garrick uses, but he doesn't get credit for it, etc. So, chemistry/alchemy. I assume.

I could be wrong, but I doubt Dolores is 30 years old. Pretty sure back then they were using the older models like "Old Bill." Still, it's possible that she was around then and has just had parts upgraded/replaced, but it's usually more efficient to just build a new model.

Yeah, switching out his leather jacket for a coat and shades wasn't enough. Give him a wig, a beard, something. Plus the fact that he's like the ONLY white(ish) member of the entire main cast made him even more noticeable, they needed to do something to distance him visually from his SoA role.

I guess you missed the last scene. The guy in bed woken up by the evil voice was Rival aka Edward Clariss.

I agree about Rossi being miscast. I can see what kind of character he is supposed to be, and it just doesn't work. It got really highlighted when he would say certain lines, lines that should have been coming out of the mouth of someone older, more menacing and more self-asured. I also didn't...

Or, just pop open a cold one and relax while SWAT takes care of him with their Judas bullets...

Agreed. "Go faster" "You can do it" " I believe in you" has been old for a while. Part of the problem with superspeed is that only other speedsters can really challenge him, except they don't, because he can always go faster than them as long as someone believes, lol. I've really enjoyed the...

They most likely recieve an allowance in western currency with their package. If you run out, you can just rob the bank. No biggie.

"Speaking of which, what about the rules of Westworld? In the show, the theme park has the rule that “you can’t kill anyone you’re not supposed to.” Nolan detailed the specific safeguards in place: “It’s not the guns, it’s the bullets. We thought a lot about this. In the original films, the...

Everyone else made the connection and it's been mentioned in this thread several times... lol It's not exactly subtle.