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I bet Jeff Butler is thanking the stars he stayed on the EQNext team.

All I remember is Brad making 1,000 word posts on why we should play Vanguard only to find out he hadn't been in the office months leading up to launch.

I'm getting flashbacks to the 2005 Vanguard thread.

If Brad actually shows up I'm pretty sure we'll see a very public mental breakdown.

"Brad is like Gandalf. He disappears for periods of time, re-appears to make a few proclamations, then disappears again." hahaha

Vhalen: "He (brad) is a cancer to the project." And Vhalen was the most chill guy on the team.

What I still don't understand is why Brad would destroy what's left of his reputation for a few extra bucks. The whole dev team hates him now and no investor/publisher in their right mind is going to give him any money... and all for what? 20 thousand dollars?

Your website looks like it's from geocities circa 1998.

Rift also suffered from annoying/monotonous group and raid encounters that were some variation on "avoid the red circles of death".

Chuan cries:

Utter nonsense. By that logic a game like EvE should have been a complete failure while games like SWG and ESO should be successes. These super massive MMO's just don't work anymore, the market is saturated with them. There's a place for a game like EvE, just like there would be a place for a...

I don't think the people that want a group focused PvE game that harkens back to EQ1 while adding some new things is only a few hundred people on this board. Look at how much interest Pantheon got even though it was a total disaster; that type of game doesn't exist anymore... so if one was made...

I've got a question for Elidroth, how come SOE is making every different kind of MMO except the one we all want?

He also paid himself 5x what everyone else was getting, which is why the money only lasted a month.

The guy is just incompetent at leading any project, he should of been the creative director and not the CEO.

It sounded like Silius was saying there was a $15,000 chunk missing that was transferred to Bank of America.

Never heard Silius sound so pissed, and he received a lot of hate from the players when he ran Vanguard for about a year.

Consensus of the devs seemes to be that Brad has zero leadership skills and was incompetent at constructing the KS.

As a former Vanguard player, and hence Silius-hater, it would take a lot to make me feel sorry for him. But it sounds like he and the rest of the team got fucked over pretty bad by Brad. He was saying on KTAM that he wanted to make a 4-player co-op open-world game before they attempted to...

Some people will white knight Brad til the end for one simple reason: this was going to be the only group PvE game on the horizon. I mean what else is there? EQ2 - Possibly the worst combat system in MMO history. WoW: WoD - Solo leveling with some possible high end raiding that will last 3-4...

Did anything ever come of your pitch to Smed about an EQ1 type game?

Sounds like a shitty endgame.

Is there endgame PvE raiding?

The saddest part is this was a huge missed opportunity, it's not like there wasn't enough people wanting to play a game like this. People were very excited prior to the KS and were completely shocked to find how poorly the KS page was organized.

If anyone deserves a key its us.

I don't think any of us care until they actually have a pre-alpha version to show people... let alone secure enough funding to actually finish this thing.

You just have to use different block spots. I use these 2 spots and they only get de-warded once in a while.

Combat in Ultima games was always terrible, so its not a surprise they don't really know what to do with it yet.

Final Fantasy X is shit. I also never liked the Smash Bros. series.

It's not a con, it's just incompetence.

I raise you 7-slotted Naga by EE try-hard.

This thread makes me sad... knowing a game like this is probably never going to be made.

He really is amazing. He solo ganks against 2 with Wisp ult with 1/3rd hp and gets both kills 4 minutes into the game.

Is this new campaign really that much better? I was so disappointed by the original... I only got like ~3 hours into before I quit. The engine just felt much too limited, there was no exploration; the old SNES version had more freedom than it did.

Except 'Jason X' had more believable scientists in it.

Brad mentions rerolled about 9:40 in. lol