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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Absolutely. Unfortunately being a idea man doesn't qualify him to make good games. Vanguard being a damn good example of that. Which is at least something to consider when he is standing there with his hand out.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Right on. They get to eat something other then Ramen this month!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Fair enough. Eomer said it better then I could.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No one is saying that Brad's name should be scrubbed from the history books. He obviously deserves credit for helping advance the genre. It is relevant to the topic though because if the guy stole all of EQ's mechanics then he didn't actually design anything that people loved about EQ. Unless...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    This one as well... You said, "It wouldn't take much to do the argument justice. Someone who played both early EQ and Sojourn could easily post an analysis of similarities between the two products". Sounds like Flight did just that. Or is your problem with this that it isn't in depth enough...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Oh? You should tell him that then Quaid.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Go read Flight's post? Draegan played both as well and commented.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah I'd like to know what two very good MMOs are coming out as well. Gecko?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I don't think anyone is saying Brad doesn't deserve any credit. How much credit is what is being called into question. Which is relevant to this thread because EQ is the reason some people are blindly throwing money at the guy. If EQ is just a Sojourn port then Brad honest to god gets WAY to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    If the guy's whole legacy is based on bullshit I don't see anything wrong with it being pointed out. There is no reason to play pretend just to spare his feelings. If he doesn't deserve credit then he doesn't deserve credit. That would be his problem, not ours.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So when you think about it Brad hasn't actually designed a success MMO from the ground up yet. EQ was a technical project because the game itself had already been designed by someone else. They just needed to port Sojourn to 3D. Since Brad didn't code EQ by himself to give him more then a nod...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Don't underestimate the crazy dude. Some of those guys will fund him until this thing completely falls apart. They will then thank him for taking their money and at least "trying" to make the game.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Grave doesn't get shit on either and he was part of 38 Studios. It just shows how out of touch with reality so many people are. We don't run developers off. We embrace developers who are honest and just want to talk shop. Developers who just want to hype up their product, lie to us, and use...
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    Heroes Reborn

    I consider this one of the strongest examples of shitty writing in television. Peter and Sylar got completely out of control. So much so that they didn't really know what to do with either of them. They made every other character on the show boring, and redundant. They also couldn't really...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    As if this game has any chance of seeing the light of day anyway. They are going to milk it for as long as it is profitable because they damn sure are not getting that 8 or so million they claim to need to complete the game.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Pantheon is finally where it belongs.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think a lot of people are in the same boat as me now. As in they won't give Brad a dime to complete this project. That ship sailed with them already showing such shoddy work. Throwing good money at people who are so disorganized is just pissing money away that could be used to donate...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Thought you were done with this thread?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Sounds interesting. Will likely suck, but I'm all for trying new things.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No I think we will just continue to look and laugh at you. Thanks for playing though Dumar.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    He still posts from time to time. Think he needed a break from MMO chat because he had like 10,000 posts on the subject on FoH.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    While giving them your money. Like I said I think you just like to hear yourself talk. You rant and rave like an asshole for years about WoW, but support their "evil ways" by buying their product. You don't even practice what you preach which just makes your rants all the more insufferable...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Crazy isn't it? No one bashes on WoW or its clones more than Dumar, but he probably resubs to it more then most of us. Guy is either full blown retarded, or just likes to hear himself talk.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    They will latch onto any excuse so long as it doesn't put any blame whatsoever on Brad and his team. In the end this is going to be the fault of the trolls, lack of word of mouth, rerolled etc. Not one of them will put blame where it is actually due.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    They don't want anyone who has recently, and repeatedly subs to WoW anywhere near the design team. Sorry Dumar.
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    Rift: Planes of Telara

    I ended up buying the 4 souls since I was enjoying myself. Don't know anything about defiler or tactician, but the mage/warrior souls are sweet. Mages get Harbinger which is a melee dps soul. At 60 they can turn into metal angels and melt shit. Tempest is a ranged dps soul for warrior that...
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    Rift: Planes of Telara

    Storm legion is available with F2P. Just not the 4 storm legion souls.
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    Rift: Planes of Telara

    Rift dimensions absolutely destroys player housing in other MMOs. Only game that did it better is UO, and that is only because your house in that game was important for storage. Some of the dimensions people have designed in this are amazing. I have been back playing this for about a month...
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    Godzilla (2014)

    Same. That is one epic fucking Godzilla. Can't wait to see this.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Do you think some of the crazies are thinking that $800k = they get their game? So many seem to act like funding is in the bag once the site is operational. Brad dropped the $7-8million number here, but I'm starting to wonder if that was never mentioned to the "apprentice developers". Even if...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It is important to remember that they haven't abandoned the KS though folks.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So when does that last 400k appear out of nowhere?! Still going the wrong direction.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Have you not read the KS comments? Some of those people would buy shit in a box if they thought it came from Brad.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That was only a taste. You have to pay a monthly fee to keep it.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    What's scary is that is probably pretty close.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That is how game development works now. You have to pay before you get shown anything worthwhile! Look at Brad. Still a pioneer.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I have not heard of this one. Game looks neat.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Not yet. I'm still waiting for the "Please pledge guys... I'll suck yo dick" update before I start wondering.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That money tracker on their site is going to send me into fits of laughter in 60 hours.