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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Rift did have some challenging instances early on before it all got nerfed. But even so, it was only scripts that you could learn once and then forever find them easy. Like I remember there was the wolfman guy who runs in to the light and you have to keep him out of it, but its tank and spank...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Well there are some exceptions but they are just occasional content, Rift only had several dungeons in total, and like you said, they were nerfed anyway. EQ was different because every mob was like that. Literally at level 1, your first steps in the world you come across a wolf or something and...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    VG had some great dungeons too. Tsangs was ok but that's just a low level dungeon. The great stuff is like Vol Tuniel, Dargun's Tomb etc. Gigantic sprawling dungeons often with a theme to them. Like crystals that drain your mana if you stand near them or whatever. In Vol Tuniel there are mobs...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Exactly :P But that's what EQ was all about, and we never had anything like that ever since. It's only been done well that one time in MMO's. It is just traditional D&D style RPG combat, but tuned to be challenging. You play well or you die. Everything since EQ destroyed that and turned it in to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah I don't really need anything wildly new. I would ideally take a MTG rip off any day, but I think that might be too much to ask, especially of an indie game. The resistances thing was just one example. There are infinite other scenarios, like if your group gets jumped and things are going...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think its just the bosses who are stupid/misguided. They are so sure that crapping out happy meal games is the best return. I'm sure many of the people in the industry are still good at making games and full of great ideas, they just can't do it when their company is dead set on making the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    exactly, go for that niche pie. And dont get distracted by all the industry obsession with high end graphics, cutscenes, quicktime events, streamlining, and all the other stupid shit this games industry does. People havebeen sayign this for years. This is the first time someone in the industry...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I agree 100%. But thats what I hope this game could be. If a hardcore D&D nerd makes a game for other hardcore D&D nerds, maybe they will all come back out the woodwork? They might all be older now and married and kids or whatever, but that's fine, all the middle aged people I know are bored and...
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    Which MMO *DO* you actually play now?

    ^ thats what i play too! I play MTG and started heroes of newerth. OR i try to play it, i keep getting suspended and having to make new accounts. Game is kind of stupid but so fun to play, its so fast paced compared to dota and LoL and becomes so addictive. Just wish s2 werent such jackasses. I...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yep its dumbed down for kids and sales figures, not something made for real gamers to enjoy. The guy above who said its a 1 month slot machine is so right. As for the specifics about combat, I really don't mind, which is why I didn't mention anything specific, because I like both slow strategy...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Want: 1) Really hard mobs, can't play Vanguard anymore, so boring, steamrolling through dungeons - people hardly even take a scratch. Dumbed down gameplay. Every tank has multiple taunts, single target AND ae, every healer has tons of heal output, ever caster has ways to recover mana, healers...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Want: 1) Really hard mobs, can't play Vanguard anymore, so boring, steamrolling through dungeons - people hardly even take a scratch. 2) Complex combat - I like having to think about what I'm doing, there needs to be good choices and bad choices, I want to be able excel by being good and...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I kinda feel bad now for raging, maybe he is a nice guy ;p But today I'm an angry drunk, and that's exactly why I should be taking my frustrations out by decapitating some orcs and blowing up goblins with fireballs. These MMO people they aren't in the games business, they are providing a...
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    Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)

    Is it any good? I'm still leveling up yet another new character. I HAVE to take this one to 55 because I've run out of alts, I literally have one of every class now so... onwards I go or just quit. It's hard to find the motivation to keep grinding out these shitty quests, especially seeing as I...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That guy asking how to feel special at level 1..... what a fucking clueless tool. In EQ I had 90% empty slots until about level 10 when I finally got a mixture of cloth and leather. It was 20 levels until I finally got some plate and even that was shitty bronze which was really heavy and only...
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    What Made EQ Great? Tell your stories to a filthy casual

    Well I'm a helpful guy! I also rememebred another time in Neverwinter Nights in the 90s, but the crappy graphics were a downside. Hard to get hot about a 6 pixel character. Shame age of conan tanked, that would have been good.
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    Which MMO *DO* you actually play now?

    I wish they would make some kind of hardcore GW2 server. I would play it in a heartbeat. Lol at the 0 people playing Neverwinter, ouch. Its only really the uber yellow items and above which mostly come from content added to the game long after release by Silius who ruined the balance of the game...
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    What Made EQ Great? Tell your stories to a filthy casual

    Lol, there were some crazy fuckers on EQ. I remember there was this one girl who was obsessed with my real life friend who also played. But he had a girlfriend so wasn't interested but this girl in game used to tell me all the filthy thoughts she had about him and what she wants to do with...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    We are just desperate. But that's what happens when a company fumbles ass backwards in to a success and then spends the next 14 years dismantling it while constantly failing to provide any reasonable alternative. I know innovation in gaming is at an all time low these days, but still... a...
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    Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)

    Ferocity and defiance? Also does anyone know if there a list of lockbox spawn points online somewhere? I bought a ton of keys earlier in the year when it was cheap and I've been using them on groundspawn lockboxes. Got a bunch of decent items from them! I found one in a dungeon that respawned 3...
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    EQMac Now Free to Play

    puts on his robe and wizard hat
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    Project Spark

    It sounds like the best thing ever. The thing is, even Everquest didn't really have that much going on in terms of 'depth'. If you can make a big world, fill it with mobs for people to kill, fill the database with loots, then you're most of the way there. I don't know if it would be able to do...
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    EQMac Now Free to Play

    I wouldn't mind going a bit further than LDON or whatever. I just don't want mercs, max level in a month, and gear so powerful that people can solo Innorruk or whatever.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I can probably give him the benefit of the doubt, seeing as he acknowledged what went wrong on his blog that time. Although I still think he would be smart to make himself the executive producer or something, rather than the head honcho. He should busy himself with programming, designing...
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    EQMac Now Free to Play

    Thanks for all the info! Is that one you talked about also known as The Grand Creation? I made some characters on that a while ago but never actually played it. I liked the idea of it because you can multi box and stuff. Although going far beyond PoP is something that turns me off. If that's the...
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    EQMac Now Free to Play

    You're really taking one for the team doing that. Would be cool if we can get some more accurate servers some day. Although we also need some people who aren't morons/corrupt. It's strange that there are 20+ servers on the list but none of them have a normal ruleset.
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    Modified Classic Progression Server

    Hmm little disappointed. I gave it a shot but not sure it's something I could stick with. First thing that struck me is that there's only about 30 people online. It could build up, but for now, that's way too low to have any sort of chance of grouping while you level up. And at max level...
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    EQMac Now Free to Play

    I logged in the other day just out of morbid curiosity really. So fucking sad. I don't think I've ever played an MMO that has closed before, I think there was a few like shadowbane but they don't really count because I didn't play them for long. But this was really sad the entire population was...
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    Modified Classic Progression Server

    Isn't it only +5% regen out of combat? Or does it mean that you regen 5% per tick or something? Either way they were talking about downtime still being a couple of minutes, just not 5 minutes or something. Sounds ok to me, you will still need to be mana efficient and play well but it will just...
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    Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)

    Thanks that sounds good! Everronye i spoke to said it is grindy but its fun. I am motivated to try it now.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I give it major bonus points if it does that! Most games don't seem to change much. EQ was cool because the early days with my necro was all about sharing tanking duty with your pet and trying to lifetap to keep yourself alive. Then you get snare and fear and fear kiting becomes a possibility...
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    Modified Classic Progression Server

    Omg, that bit didn't sink in when I read it! That's really promising to me because I loved the sound of this besides the "progression" part. Three boxing is the greatest thing ever... It's few enough that you can still focus on each one rather than the macro spamming a 6 box becomes, but it's...
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    Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)

    That's fine by me, as long as it's actually good. I have one of every class now and all but two of them are about 46. I just keep restarting at that point because all I hear about the high levels is that there's not much content and it's very grindy. I don't know anything about it really, but if...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah, some people loved PoP, others not. I hoped to experience all of the PoP raid progression in EQ MacI had just got to 51 and was working my way through PoN and PoJ for exp. I intended to join a guild at 65 and try to do all the raid content I could get in on. But... RIP EQ Mac But my...
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    Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)

    I hope its good. My characters are 46 so I'll be reaching the high levels for the first time soon. I really hope there is stuff for me to do that I'll enjoy.
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    Modified Classic Progression Server

    I don't really understand the point of progression servers. Isn't it basically just going to end up like current crappy modern EQ? It might take a year or two to get there but still, why not just play f2p EQ live? For me the benefit of some of the EQ Emulator servers (or EQ Mac - RIP) is that...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'm down with the long time thing, but for me they just have to be a be careful with it or it goes too far. Like I loved the 1-50 in original old world EQ, that took me about a year to reach 50 and got involved in the Naggy/Vox/early planes stuff. But the progress wasn't really THAT slow. It...
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    EQMac Now Free to Play

    ftfy, and btw, you spelled your name wrong.
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    How would you re-socialize MMOs?

    Yea exactly, it would be great if guilds were more than just cliques.
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    EQMac Now Free to Play

    Yep, just in case smed reads this thread I want him to know. I'm a casual player, highest character was 51, never joined a guild, mostly just soloed and didn't really know anyone on the server. Used the pc hack so I could play, but never used a cheat or hack or whatever that would affect the...