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are you kidding me? it has MUCH merit

willing to bet there was never any payment timeline guaranteed to anyone, beyond the issuance of company stock. to do so would have been completely asinine. Half the team wasn't even added until immediately before the kickstarter. Nobody points that part out. But hey, if you think there is...

would love to see one of these contracts.

like any job, you submit your expenses and you get reimbursed. if you don't then your SOL. it's not your bosses fault. Either way, Vu can write this one off come tax time.

you would be surprised. get a working foundation, and folks will jump for the opportunity to help.

so the couple of them worked full time... (how many months?) trying really hard not to knock Lore as a real position @ a Gaming Company. the others were moonlighting. honestly i have no complaints with what the team got. Was it stupid for Brad to shell out the majority of the money to...

Majority of the team worked 6-7 months? you have got to be kidding. you've seen the demo right? at what point were any of them working versus "volunteering." i think one operating cost your missing is legal advice. you can guarantee Brad got legal advice, including right before the...

So pay the people who actually did work? what a novel concept. 1. who formed the company? 2. who recruited and vetted the team? 3. who fronted the start up costs? 4. who initiated the kickstarter? yes, lets talk about the work that was done and then why don't we put a price tag...

absolutely 100 percent. they bailed. and it wasn't about the game. it was about the money. The KS was a joke. If they disagreed with going to KS before having content ready, they should have left before the funds came rolling in. Instead they waited to see what Brad's name would bring...

Chris Rowan - CEO Chris earned a degree in International Marketing from Santa Clara University, graduating cum laude in three years, then worked at an advertising agency in Paris. Next, in Tokyo, Chris completed graduate studies then joined the entertainment arm of Sony in Tokyo for 8 years...

they should shut down the boards till they have a workable demo. otherwise i see more fallout.

the legit reason is there are a few control freaks over there. she was one of the few there from the beginning of the boards that had a level head. always kept things positive.

yep. the sensible goal would be make a working demo. release the demo and then redo the kickstarter...reuse the kickstarter funds and bring in real dev, artists, and programmers to polish things up. the original group could possible be retained as associates.

I deal with compliance for a living, got to wonder if they had set up anything in writing to prevent or allow for such action to take place. without a some sort of contract or agreement (even verbal) stating out such terms these guys are SOL. also did he take the accounts money or did Tom...

whats the word on M15? looking good at all?

People can roast Brad on this...he deserves it..but i think it's a stretch to say he stole from others. he fucked up and killed the project. again I gotta ask, what would you do if your boss took 3 months pay, and didnt have enough at the end of the week to pay you what you thought you had...

hey i had a good time. i know others did not. people are entitled to their opinion.

to each their own opinion i suppose...mismanaged? yeah...underfunded...yep. I enjoyed VG for a number of years. as did some of the other names I recognize in the thread. lack of content is what killed it for many in the end...i don't know why everyone complains about it running poorly...ran...

this is the part about it all I don't understand. they got 150k for doing almost nothing...and we got people bitching about fair pay. if we want to discuss pay by merit...how would you have distributed the kickstarter funds? from this point of view...not much was done but the website and...

Exactly - if the intent was malicious wouldn't you take it all? Brad screwed up thinking there would be more money coming in. He made an executive decision to siphon 3 months pay...justified cause lets face it, no Brad, no game. He must have been really desperate to get his hands on...

was part of the deal to acquire Verant..

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Vanguard had many exploits, particularly with Bards.

it's the little things...like introducing them to Unity and people that can use it properly. we are talking about very basic things missing from their current project. btw has anyone attempted to play their MMO ?ScreenShots Visions

yeah must be a bug, had the same thing occur. but didn't seem worth bugging anyone about.

The irony here is that they might actually make a game. Sparkling actually has made a few games (none that i would play) with little or no outside investment. She could make a game with or without Brad's help. I'm sure she and her "Visions" team are VERY keen on learning the in's and...

sucks, you were one of the few active posters. btw i noticed you downgraded to "Regular Member" about the same time I did. wishing for the best, but the continued lack of communication from the project heads are a deal breaker for me.

judging by Sparkles previous/current work, I'd say they are definitely working on something. now, the question you need to ask yourself is it a game you would even be interested in playing. something is getting made.

thought it was rather amusing when EvilReigns finally found out who Sparkling is:Meet the Team | Heavens Blessings Tiny Zoo

Smed won't rush this to meet a public milestone if it's not ready. Too much is on the line here. A failed launch would probably shut them down.