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Stop Scream. Lurking's reply was much better and more in good faith, and as you can see, when a part of his evidence showed Trump truly breaking with the experts, I was fully able to admit it. Trump was wrong. What you're doing here with the Pelosi thing? Is fucking pathetic. Get some self...

The April quotes were once more mirroring Fauci. https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article241882091.html And Fauci was mirroring the science, which illustrates a well known relationship between decreased transmission and warm weather. Study Shows Why the Flu Likes Winter (Published 2007)...

HAH....Yes, Scream, when the media has actual video of an event, its typically okay to use. Fuck this is amazing. Usually you don't fuck up THIS bad. "BUT BUT..because she wasn't ACTUALLY dancing, sure she did what Trump was actually pointing out, saying Corona wasn't a big deal and to go out...

Oh boy, that's awkward. LOL So you really thought he was lying about Pelosi being in China town and encouraging people to go party/have fun and not be scared of Corona? God damn, hah. This wasn't hard to look up man...Honestly.

Lurking, I replied in depth to the other aspect. I actually missed the last line and wanted to add it, but there is no edit feature. I'm trying hard to be thorough and fair here. Can you give me an example of Trump saying its no big deal (Or anything along those lines, I won't use semantics...

Hah, how fucking embaressing for you. Look at my last reply. Cringe. Tell me how this is a lie?

She..literally did that. What's the lie here? Oh, because she wasn't dancing? LOL

For fuck sake, if Trump didn't change his tune then give me an example from those periods. All of your quotes are from "before the science changed". You get that right?

Yes, and when the science changed, Trump's rhetoric changed. You're judging Trump repeating experts given the science in Jan/Feb, with the updated rhetoric in May or so, and saying he lied in Jan/Feb. He did not. The science was wrong. Trump has consistently repeated the experts, the only time...

Okay, then give me an example of him saying no big deal in April/May? Should be really easy then.

This isn't hard Scream. Just give me a specific lie. But you won't..because you know I'll just match it with what Fauci said, and you'll have to go back "but, but Fauci said things COULD change!"--as if somehow that makes Trump's statement wrong. As I said to Lurking, your entire argument was...

Btw @lurkingdirk with you I'm going to cut right to the end because step by step arguments are like pulling teeth. Essentially my argument is your claims he made it out to be "no big deal" are derived purely from statements made between Jan-March, at which time all the experts were saying the...

If you want to criticize him because he's the boss so he gets the blame, I have no issue with that. Or even for the fact that he listened to Fauci and Fauci was wrong, that's fine too--as long as the media and you admit Fauci was wrong. What is gas lighting is pretending the experts were right...

Wait, outdoor events are a risk now? But the experts told us the protests and large gatherings out doors were not a risk. In fact, multiple studies showed that somehow they SLOWED the spread. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w27408/w27408.pdf This was in CNN, NBC...

Okay, so what date did this change occur, and can you give me a statement from Trump that said it would be no big deal after that date? Now, I'm asking you to do this because I have citations for fairly major actions by Trump that were taken well before other countries. The one that gets...

No, I'm not. Just answer the question. What, exactly did Trump do then that you think was wrong. Are you saying Trump's contradiction of the experts was because he didn't offer enough caveats that things could change? Then just say that. Is that the problem?

You're saying in the future he meant people might need to do these things, and the President has since not conformed to them. Yes, I get it--but our argument was about the early months of the outbreak when Trump supposedly "lied" about the severity...and its clear within those months he was...

Btw @lurkingdirk From March, advising against Masks...after the interview where you said he was saying to wear masks? Weird. Almost like you don't know what you're talking about. Because he was expressly saying NOT to do what you are saying. Holy fuck the gas lighting is so extreme...

“Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United...

Well if they were walking in, they didn't just crush someone...like I did you. So not sure how that applies. So far you've got jack shit, we've only even just begun to ID what you found wrong after 2 pages of you whining vaguely about orange man bad.

No, we're not done with the argument. Now that we're into specifics, its time to go into what you actually have a problem with. This is part of the problem in terms of arguing with you--you don't want to get into specifics, and when you finally do, you want to change the argument. So now we have...

A lot of expertise in that area eh?

“I’ve said that many times even on this program,” Fauci stated in that interview. “You’ve got to watch out because although the risk is low now, you don’t need to change anything you’re doing. When you start to see community spread, this could change and force you to become much more attentive...

Okay, give an example. Provide a citation where Fauci said that from the videos I linked above. Pretty simple.

The argument is not going to change just because you got wrecked in it. Sorry. But have fun pulling your pud and supporting a guy who went around the world selling out America to the highest bidder, after supporting the false accusation of that against Trump. So sad. Projection is so strong.

You said there is some extra context that makes Fauci's quotes NOT mirrors of Trump. Give me just one. No Gish Gallop, just ONE FUCKING EXAMPLE.

You're the one claiming that without the full context its gas lighting. I'm fine with those quotes, just like I'm find with Fauci's mirror of those quotes. If you want to claim there is extra context, then I'll need full citations of both. But we both know that isn't happening...because there...

This is all you have left? MSM articles with interviews from experts..since experts are the crux of the issue. The MSM doesn't lie by literally changing statements, they lie through manipulating the availability of information/context. Which is why all the experts shitting on Trump for...

Citations that what Fauci said in the video was taken out of context. That the Newsweek interview I linked somehow had a caveat in there that made it far different from Trump. No changing the fucking subject. We're talking about gas lightning, not current events. Give me a citation.

Oh, and the ultimate irony that your list is also a list of quotes absent ANY context at all...AT ALL, which were often given in 30+ minute interviews and speeches with tons of context and then claiming somehow Fauci is getting a raw deal because he added a caveat after saying the exact same...

If you don't start providing citations, I will be. Because you're clearly attempting to try and salvage something after I butt fucked you here, and its sad. Go on now, go fetch an example of this "out of context" that completely changes a statement like "we have it under control".

I linked a massive list of actions illustrating Trump was taking it very seriously. Fauci got up in April and talk the Press "Trump never delayed mitigation" and said he listened to him word for word, every time. I'm not even understanding your rebuttal here...You go find me an example of what...

I can get you citations of interviews with Fauci. As said, I included one from Feb that has Fauci stating its under control and people should be worried about the flu. I also linked the article from the times from Feb with people from the CDC saying Trump is way over-reacting due to being a...

So when the experts said we have this under control...and got angry at Trump for being 'too extreme'...and so Trump began to say we "have this under control". That was him changing his mind and tone to agree with the experts. Which you're also saying he was wrong to do. Double think...

Yes, because he gets shit on by the media for listening to Fauci...after the media insisted he listen to Fauci. The media is gas lighting and you can't help but eat that shit up. Your quotes are AMAZING. I couldn't ask for better evidence of what an ignorant fucking twat you are, they came...

Did you watch the video? The quotes you said were said by Fauci. Should he listen to the experts or no? Some of those quotes are LITERALLY in the video being said by Fauci.

Here you go Scream. I can go dig up specific interviews. Fauci was literally telling people up until March everything was under control, they had all known active cases in the U.S. under lock down. Which of course is why Bloomberg, Pelosi ect were telling people to go to Chinatown and get out...

Nope, I have both a link to Newsweek in February, and a video where Fauci is saying...up until March, we have it under control and Americans need to be more worried about the flu. If you're not going to look at the citations you propagandist, gas lighting faggot--don't even bother. You shit on...

Once I stopped wrestling, I became a fat ass for a couple of years due to this. Without having to make weight, it hard to keep your mind on it--and you still eat as if you're training and burning a ton of calories. Except, you're not. The gut grows pretty damn quick.

Yeah, Bobbie is a little on the thick side--but I don't know, she just does it for me. Hot as fuck, imo but I've always had a thing for samoan/islander women. I originally thought I wasn't going to like her character; modern writing for strong women is often garbage for a variety of reasons but...