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Are you seriously stupid enough to think that's a relevant metric? "THE HARDEST CONTENT AVAILABLE IN THE GAME" They didn't add a harder difficulty, they added piss easier ones for fuckheads like you. Nothing in Vanilla WoW was particularly hard as we would think of it today. A fight with...

The levelling experience is FINE. If it were just the tutorial it'd be one thing, but people are bitching that the game is care bear level 5 shit the entire way when it CLEARLY fucking is not. The very first dungeon is harder than most content in wow is at max level these days. Questing isn't...

Did you like Fallout 2? Arcanum is fucking sex. It's the truest sequel we've had to FO2 ever. That said, turn it into turn based combat IMMEDIATELY. Sierra made them include a real time option cause of Diablo and it's terrible. It's also the default.

I heard anecdotal experience is the best way to determine subs. "All the hardcore people I knew quit" oh yeah? all the hardcore people I knew still played for the most part. Shit son we're at an impasse.

All of the warrior 'threat' stuff is from prior to the UI change patch. Idk how things are now, but that patch gave warriors like a 50% threat boost to their stance or some shit. Bandaid-y but I HAVE to assume that fixed it since they were workable before just notably less good. Class balance...

You share path XP when you're grouped with someone when either one of you would gain it. Also, there are instances of like, a scientist might open up a room and then there might be an explorer flag spot in there, or doing cartography as an explorer ALWAYS spawns a holdout/supplies/scientist scan...

Don't do it until post 50? The paths actually reward you for doing the shit with people of other paths (extra path xp and shit).

Here you come with the stupid again. I never said the game is 'hard' at level 15, I said the game is actually punishing so that people have to learn how to fucking play. You play with the same group as you did back in EQ1? Hope the housewife that only plays clerics has learned how to not stand...

Poopsocking doesn't have anything to do with being shit or not. It tells you about enemy telegraphs within the first 5 minutes of playing. It tells you about aiming and moving. It slowly ramps up how much doing any of these things actually matters to successfully killing something. The simple...

No? Are you fucking retarded? The game does plenty to teach you how to play it. I'm saying they aren't dumbing the design down to the point that you don't have to actually learn in order to achieve all of your goals however. IE: Most games since wow, where only the absolute cutting edge is...

Game is NOT similar to wow where it matters, the actual gameplay/combat systems are super different. The questing is generic and awful. See above. General consensus on every other forum I read (including the official) and my own experience with myself and tons of ex-guildmates: Everyone that...

Yeah, you can say it's unintended and they didn't design it that way, but letting us do shit like that IS the design. Even if it's unintended. They clearly didn't understand what they had done the first time since EQ2 was more tightly controlled than a nun's asshole, but I don't think it's fair...

Yeah threads everywhere are like 'game is nothing special quit at level 2' just like here. Game is fantastic, but the newbie experience is awful and it doesn't encourage you to play it 'correctly' for the first dozen levels minimum. Group content is a fucking blast though and even questing gets...

How fucking stupid is this post, you dodge faster than you walk or run out of telegraphs, ergo it serves the exact purpose it should. Needing invulnerability frames on it makes it lazy stupid shit like guild wars where you have to INVINCIROLL through mechanics rather than actually avoid them.

Did you just bring up no invulnerability on dodge as a bad thing? Breakout gameplay is actually changed in the coming patch for certain mechanics, and how is it 'bad' in the first place? Your post is basically nothing at all in terms of content, just "I don't like it".

Yeah no you can totally have a shit spec in TSW, it's one of the things that makes it hard for me to return to the game casually. There's a LOT of interaction with your shit and it can be hard to just dive in and find what you want. That said, starting with 2 weapons and building those naturally...

That's ok, if you weren't in the irc channel where we basically hard the start of our quest leaked to us I'm still not convinced ANYONE would've figured that quest out. iirc was me and zad and a few others and then...Wakefield? The guy from test server that had to point us to where to go. Monk...

Spoken like someone that really has never done anything remotely challenging in WoW. I don't want Pantheon to be wow, but I think you're absolutely retarded and undermining everything if blindly refuse to acknowledge the advantages and disadvantages to other products out there.

what? It very much is on rails, at least what we've been able to access on the beta weekends.

A dungeon finder itself is not necessarily wow-like, it's not like I'm more immersed going "RANGER OF THE THIRTIETH SEASON SEEKING COMPANIONS FOR ADVENTURES OF DARING DO IN YON DUNGEON OF VILE GUK" than clicking 'show me the groups'. I do think a dungeon finding tool should just be a simple...

Trying to keep the Gaf thread on topic and positive since there are definitely still the occasional posters who either didn't read or are just stirring up shit, Not the best at figuring out how to upsell stuff per se but just keeping it bumped will get views at least I guess. Pantheon: Rise...

The problem with Gaf hype is if they don't already have Gaf accounts, it's not the kind of site you just sign up for and get instant access. That said, EvilLore has definitely rushed through access for devs before when they wanted to talk about their game or whatever, often just takes a PM or a...

And because it's fucking awful. GW2 and Rift and TOR and shit were all bad, but they all had positives over wow too. TES has none.

I hate the ideas of shit like mobs leashing because you got x yards away and shit. all of the ups and downs that came with zones being 'limited' tech, I liked. I like being in a dungeon and feeling FUCKED trying to run to the zone line and training everyone. I like that in big outdoor zones! I...

Am I the only one that liked Zones?

The prereq for the Lorewalker quest chain is ilevel 480 or something. It's whatever heroic scenarios require. Once you get to H scens you get a chance at a 516 every day too from the first of those

Play what you want. Having a vague idea of the class might help but a guide is likely to overwhelm you. high level combat mechanics are INSANELY different from vanilla. The most complex rotations in vanilla would be so rote and trivial compared to even the easiest of them now, lots of proc based...

What? It's so funny that just because they let the lowest common denominator devolve to that point that somehow the hardest content MMOs have ever really had is equated to housewives.

Re-read the previous 250 pages of the thread, we definitely talked about why.

Has to be. PS4 is super supply constrained, so yeah, considering anyone that wants an XBone can get one, but PS4 is pretty well instantly selling otu everywhere...it's a pretty big difference between the two. (It would be a sizeable difference even ignoring that fact).

Right after they added the honor and bg system stuff in wow, while Rag was still first being progressed on, all the raiding guilds on Medivh quickly discovered that using the PvP banner that gave people 10% hp or whatever, would crash the zone. They eventually just disabled the banners in raids...

Isle of thunder you should've done the pvp dailies anyway. Vastly faster and easier for only marginally 'less' reward.

Wow you guys are jaded as fuck. Haven't read the books, won't read them. Liked this a ton.

idk, I think graphics are a legitimate issue. I can overlook them to an extent, but an MMO is something where you're staring at shit A LOT. I mean, remember how much everyone hated luclin models? shit matters.

This is the worst MMO I've played in ages.

They already said it was ARAC. As it needs to be in a game with this kind of multiclassing. When being the best warrior might involve having rogue skills and wizard skills and shit, you can't have someone go 'i wanna be an ogre warrior' and then get shat on for it in the long term.

Mine is the same. EDIT: follow the links and check your account status. We have to put in that new 20 digit in order to actually sub. Neither of the old codes were actually 'game key' stuff they were preorder and then early access.

Welp, finished a dungeon, exhausted quests in the zone I was in went to continue story, boom disconnected.

I can't believe I just read 5 pages of people debating whether this launch is bad or not. You guys are fucking retards if you think this isn't the worst MMO launch in at least 5 years. EVERY GAME that is brought up as 'had a bad launch' was better than this shit. SWTOR? I was playing it fine...