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This is a great idea and would give some actual value to the Coldharbor tutorial thing. The concept of POE/Diablo style difficulties in an MMO is something I've wanted for a long time now. It may not have make sense for it to be exactly as it is in those games, but there certainly needs to be...

Cool, I can definitely get into some grinding. I'm just concerned with how many people have said the early game is boring as hell. Mini-instance thing at level 12? That sounds way more interesting. Is that separate from the adventures?

Well that was snippy. I'm just believing what you're saying. If the group content is where the fun is and you can't access it until 15, what are the first 14 levels like?

So, at minimum, 15 levels of mind numbing tutorialized gameplay that explains how to play a standard fair MMO followed by an hour or two of solo quests? Unnnnnngg. But then you get the good part.

At what level can you begin doing adventures and dungeons? Before 15?

This trend of game development is so disappointing. The majority of players are not chimps and get put to sleep by shit like this. They have to lose more players by inducing narcolepsy with mindless however-many-hours of tutorializing than they gain by holding their hand. If you attract a...

There have been several fan site contests giving away sets of keys that Carbine has provided. One that sticks out as extra bullshit was the Wildstar quiz.WildStar Beta Key Giveaway - Crack the Eldan Code | Nexus Report There have been Twitch streamers given sets of keys to give away. There...

I think these key give away games are really pissing off some of their most excited fans. Especially when people have been signed up for beta for almost a year with no fucks given by Carbine.

Sorry, but I think the comparison to MOBAs is far more short sighted. MOBAs are very much intentionally designed to be role based and class based. RIOT develops league with the meta absolutely in mind. In MOBAs your champion is extremely focused to a specific role and there are game systems...

Except that TSW is a terrible example because: EverQuest Next does not require the use of tanks and healers. Our combat mechanics and our AI do not support dedicated healers and focused tanks. With systems like that EQN will end up with one to a few optimal, totally homogenized, role-less...

Stretch goal #1: modern camera controls

Another AMA already? Any questions that have come up since the last AMA sure as hell aren't going to be of a positive nature. It'll be some serious troll bait.

Let's assume there is an investor/publisher out there willing to fund a throwback MMO like this. Is this still the team you want them betting their funding on now that you've seen the Kickstarter effort?

Don't worry, go ahead and overdraft a pledge to Darkest Dungeon. When Pantheon fails to fund it'll free up your faith budget.

Looking forward to this. Reminds me of a grimdark fantasy version of FTL. The quality of their kickstarter raises the bar to an almost unfair level for other indie games.

Someone was kind enough to send me one yesterday, but I've got a buddy looking for one so we can group. If no one else speaks up, toss it my way and I'll pass it on.

I've been signed up for beta with several accounts for about a year now and have yet to play the game. So I'd love it, if you're sharing.

Maybe they could take some notes from this Kickstarter that just went up today: Darkest Dungeon by Red Hook Studios by Tyler Sigman Kickstarter

I grouped the entire time I played TESO. I don't know why the hell you guys think people that want a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER game to encourage multiplayer are antisocial and are the odd ones. What the fuck? It's not even about being social or forcing anyone to do anything, it's that designing...

MMOs haven't exactly been smash hits following the current model recently. 10 years later most triple A MMOs are still chasing WoW. Why is it so hard to believe that another paradigm shift may be in order? Do you think MMOs should just continue to progress in one direction without the...

And almost all of them have failed to one extent or another. Of the MMOs that have been successful, they either have a large emphasis on group content or they are a hybrid of some other genre+MMO.

I believe that forced grouping IS the answer. Solo questing is a serious detriment to recent MMOs. Between the extremely active gameplay and the ability to solo your way to level cap you end up with mechanics that are inherently antisocial, creating this bastardized genre of 5000 player games...

It's the closest thing to a single player MMO that I've seen. I'd take forced grouping and grinding over whatever this is supposed to be any day. I suffered through until level 9 today, trying to get to 10 to see the pvp. Couldn't take it anymore. I logged into my 13 SHM on P99 and crawled...

I know it's cool to hate on this game right now and I was trying to avoid doing so, but god damn do I hate this fucking game after giving it a few hours today. I feel like it is actively trying to piss me off. Everything is so spread out, running everywhere. No idea what the map icons mean...

I got a kick out of this today. Ponytail posted this to Twitter Which caused several people to lose access to their SOE accounts out for invalid key attempts.

I think there is plenty of interest in an MMO like this, but Brad and this team haven't exactly sold many people on their ability to produce it. This isn't the only not-a-wow-clone MMO being worked on. It's not even the most competent one by a long shot. Check out Project Gorgon. You can go...

Load up the AngryBots demo game that comes with Unity. It has way more objects in the scene than this Pantheon level does. I can zip around in the scene editor at 60+ fps.

Is he screen sharing his Unity client over Teamviewer or something to another person that is then streaming it to Twitch? No wonder it's choppy as fuck.

I'd much prefer the blocky, abstract and colorful EQ environments over the boring realism of this Pantheon environment. I think the graphical limitations of older games actually inspired more innovation in environment design because you couldn't have artists that just focus on making a super...

On this note, I gave Project Gorgon's alpha a try this weekend. I thought it was fantastic. They had a failed kickstarter that included much more info than even what Pantheon is showing. I think the alpha succeeds in demonstrating that the developer can make a good game and is capable of...

I'm your best friend so I know you'll be sending me a key. Thanks cutie.

When I first saw this I did a double take because I thought it was Dark Souls or Deep Down. This screenshot should be a target for what Pantheon should look like. The minimalist white UI and faint floating name text is strikingly modern looking. The art style is dark, gloomy and just the...

Sure, using it for prototyping and internal development makes a ton of sense. But, just to be clear here... we're cool with asking for $800k using promotional/marketing screenshots in which practically nothing was made by the people asking for said $800k? Wasn't even created by a contractor...

I understand that and agree. But what's the point of putting screenshots on the kickstarter with 99% store assets? It's slightly disingenuous.

Disclaimer: I'm looking forward to the game, onboard with the vision and have already backed. Brad has said it's placeholder content intended to illustrate their ideas, but wow... every piece of the screenshots are purchased models from the Unity store. I understand that store content is one...

Is the basic attack 1 click per swing or can you hold the button down?

Donate your key to me. JK: They didn't fix my account either.

Their support is so fucking bad. I've had an NCSoft master account since Guild Wars came out that has survived all of their transitions, upgrades and has every game they make entitled on it. Well, at least I did. When AION first came out, I preordered it and entered the preorder key. I...

Absolutely. But, I don't think anyone here is dense enough to actually think that the macros were the problem. Mentioning the 1 button macro bullshit is just a quick way to illustrate the skill design issues with the game. I think Trion intentionally allowed macros to execute the way they did...

Especially agree with the comment on the over usage of token systems in MMOs. Some thoughts other than the standard content issues: - Bland and uninspired visual style and effects. - Gamebryo engine with terrible animation clipping and spell effect culling at launch. Also no AA. -...