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Can't speak for Dumar but everything I liked about WoW was pretty much gone a year after release (original AV anyone?) whereas the things I didn't like never changed (running UBRS 30x for a slim chance at the Alchemy drop). I gather raiding got better after MC, but I wasn't interested enough...

I don't know if it's immersion but you do want some kind of logic in your game so I'm okay with not every mob running after you for forever, certainly undead shouldn't want to run into open sunlight if you were dungeon delving and opened up the wrong crypt. Makes the Day/Night cycle matter...

You can already fail at FD in VG, and often. No need to nerf an already nerfed and mostly superseded (at the raid level) ability. Given EQ & VG, seems pretty likely that Monks, Necromancers and SK (though perhaps with slightly altered names) will show up at release, or as a stretch goal, or in...

Yeah VG warriors are pretty screwed.

LoL and MTG are relatively easy to perfectly imbalance compared to a standard diku mmo because they are dealing with limited abilities per avatar/card and they both still screw up. Thus my RPS comment. The only balance possible is RPS. That you make some classes better as compared to other...

Who is asking to go back to those bad old days? Asking Devs to set up a couple of camping areas in leveling/endgame dungeons and or a couple of encounters as part of a raid zone that are best dealt with by pulling (by monks, bards, or whatever) is not asking for bringing back the bad old days.

Failure to mention RPS in that video is fail. -_-

I agree with this and zzeris' post just below yours - that yes all classes should be able to contribute something to the raid, the group and the environment (and of course there is solo play as well): but I don't know if that's possible. Maybe we have to take Meatloaf's advice that Two out of...

Lol. Yeah, I must be getting old. I have zero interest in playing a game via the Rift. But more power to you and everyone who does.

Every MMO needs to plan for that future when there are two few newbies in the 3-4 start zones and they need a Mines of Gloomingdeep to bring everyone together. I was never bothered by VG's Isle of Dawn having better loot than the original starting areas - it served the same purpose you're...

Balance is the shibboleth of MMO developers. Did it ever work? And did it ever make an MMO more fun after the Developers picked up the nerfbats? People need to accept that classes can't be balanced and just pick one they find fun to play. What developers can do is give classes "something"...

You're forgetting the necessity of 8 1/2 pound headphones to go along with your Rift.

I'm going to guess that playing a game with ten pounds of shit on your head is not going to be as fun as it seems, especially the third time you hit your head against the cabinet. Also, I don't think the Rift has Picture-in-Picture so how are you going to watch Superbowl XLXI while playing...

I come back from my cheerios and grapefruit this morning to find out chivalry is not dead on rerolled! Awesome, I sure hope Quaid gave you her favor for the jousting tournament tomorrow. Good 'On Sir Zzeris. Zounds!

No - that just subjects the monk to a mean RNG which is never good. As I said, better to think of it as Jedi Mind Tricks (or Psychic Neuralizer) than Human Opposum. You can keep using the JMT/Neuralizer and they'll keep forgetting you're there. Though I'm fine with a class of mobs (undead...

Quaid is just trolling this thread at this point. Why? Well apparently he got his panties into a bunch because in NTOV his shitty guild with shitty pullers made him wait 20 minutes so his beer went stale or maybe they made him spill his beer when they shouted "incoming" in chat - not clear on...

Meh I'd rather see Druid ravenform, or Rogues with a Safe Climb ability (watching Prince of Persia the movie right now) or punk Red Pandad race. Save the flashy stuff for later. As an aside - it does seem if the kickstarter doesn't hit its stretch goals you could do exactly what someone...

Well if VRI raises 36 million like Star Citizen everything's on the table. I just don't see it happening, their fans are crazy. Edit. Also lol @popsicle, fine form tonight sir, fine form. I take it you've finished your first fifth already

Yeah I'm not a fan of the "be all you can be mentality" of Rift (and apparently current WoW). People on this thread have an identity with their EQ (and VG) classes that they didn't have with WoW. I played a WoW priest for about a year - latter half as a shadowpriest. For all intents and...

Lol. You are confusing me with someone else. I never raided in EQ (well, almost never) I just liked hanging out in a groups with people I knew and when I had time to play: pulling was fun until I wanted to relax and chat, so I'd switch jobs with the SK or Bard or wtf. So much monkophobia...

Now that's funny. Also Rift is bad, m'kay. And you should feel bad for mentioning it in this thread.

/rant on I'm coming to actually hate the Oculus Rift. It started with Butler wearing one in that EQN video and before and since then it seems like every fucking thread on a new MMO has at least ten "will it support the Rift?" posts and I'm like did Oculus VR sell like 5,000,000 rifts when I...

I'm pretty sure it's been asked by others ;-)

See, Brad sees the necessity of the twitter following.

I'd be surprised if it isn't a stretch goal. I like VG crafting/harvesting as well, but it's not as central to an MMO as the adventuring experience and it's something that can be easily added later once they've got monthly subs. But I'd be happy to be wrong.

Maybe if Quaid rolls a bard in Pantheon Lost Ranger and TC will let him into their LGTB guild. And oh yes, the B stands for Bard.

Which one of them should have the max burst dps serverwide?

Another vote for targetable NPCs. I wouldn't roll on a PvP server, but I certainly hope you get one, as that means Visionary Realms had a successful kickstarter.

There is your first problem: no monk.

Lol.

What class did you play again? Enchanter?

it's not about whether they are good or bad it's about market penetration. Eqn twitter has 19.5k accounts, that is far less than the total people interested in the game but is representative of wider mmo market penetration. Blizz Warcraft account has 410k following, showing much greater market...

Brad already said otdt was going in.

Thus my wait for more twitter followers comment. Info about the game hasn't spread that far into the wider MMO community.

All you have said is that its stupid because you think so. You haven't articulated any reason why monks should be emasculated as a class so enchanters can feel even better about themselves.

The hate is strong in this one. Good. Gooood.

Meh. You should wait until pantheonrotf twitter is at least 1,000. That's a good proxy for how far and wide news has spread about the game. You want a really good day one on kickstarter.

lol. It's a mechanic that works, you just don't like it. You not liking something doesn't make it a bad mechanic. You tried to argue that it doesn't make sense in a fantasy world, because you don't like it. I'm just pointing out that there are lots of justifications for it in a fantasy world...