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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Only 3 things they've been doing of late: 1. The same consistent pattern of spending time trying to fraudulently pass off the work of others from the Unity asset store as their work for the purpose of getting donation money and misdirecting people to think that they are "making progress"...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Its not so strange when you simply look at this as being a scam being continued along by a group of people not exactly playing with a full deck.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Understandable, but I'm sure that your father has enough common sense to not want to show a cluttered desk with his meds calendar box, partially eaten food etc being used in a promotional/marketing picture on facebook for the internet to see. Rivan though in the picture is only partly to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I just looked. Its not at 44,000. Its at roughly 15,000, which is still beyond insane. Perhaps some one put down a big number then reneg'd.
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    Star Citizen Online - The search for more money

    All ships will be able to be gotten in game and as gromit said the initial draw for folks was the life time insurance on the ship packages during the initial first backings on the project. All the life time insurance does though is if your ship is destroyed, you get a new "basic" ship for...
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    Star Citizen Online - The search for more money

    People were reselling the Life time hull ship packages for a while, especially once the LT ships werent available anymore or those limited edition ones like the scythe etc but I think they clamped down on that.
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    Star Citizen Online - The search for more money

    You missed though that folks who spend over 1,000 bucks get first priority in customer serivce things via a concierge service. :P A year ago they had a 24 hour marathon on twitch to raise money and talk about the game and during it they had 2 "flash sales" of ships that were going for 1k...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    *facepalm* If they're going to go to that level of cheese, Im surprised they didnt make a video with fireworks assets from Unity and playing America the Beautiful in the background while asking people to "show their patriotism/nationalism" and donate to their cause for the fight against the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Holy hell! The guy asked 10 and has raised 930+ and still has 28 days to go. I get its tongue in cheek but still. Damn!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It'd definitely be a yt viral hit. :P
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Im laughing now at how sad this is with Brad's using those assets now. All we need to do is employ a little more reverse psychology and we could have them continuing on with the making "game" with tooth picks and marshmallows. Brad and his culty crew have about as much saavy as a group of...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That's plausible too. But their deleting it just plays into affirmation of others against em, imo. *shrug*
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Its not the first time MS put their foot down on swirly studios. I remember when MS pulled out of Marvel Universe Online project that Jack Emmert was heading with Cryptic studios as part of the settlement between Cryptic and Marvel over IP infringement(Marvel sued Cryptic for giving players the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I for one am glad they deleted it. Why? Because the guy said he'd not even entertain the idea of giving them money if they did. That means as well he'll make sure to tell anyone else to not get involved with the scam. Win/win/win Perhaps as a point of clarity, there are multiple threads(2 in...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Haha I saw this point there too:All Licenses for Atavism are Per Seat so depending who needs access to it on your team they will need their own license. Those suckers best make sure they have brad pay for it and not some "Oh you pay for it first and I promise you'll get reimbursed for it...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I saw this todayNeojac is looking to put Atavism MMO creator on Steam | Massively First thing I thought was "Great, we'll be seeing Pantheon nutters passing off assets from this too soon enough."
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Its an engine that the makers of it learned that there is significant profit in getting others to think they can make games and assets from it and turn a profit from their trying(or succeeding) to do so. Part of the interest it draws is in the way unity is marketed to virtually anyone making...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No, that's pretty much what is known as sunk cost fallacy wrapped in denial. Yes because passing off stock unity assets until caught and rearranging/posing them is an "update". Also "on time" becomes a bit silly too when you take that all into consideration AND add to it that there really...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Maybe not a parody but a farse to be sure. :P I can just imagine the fighting with her and the bible mmo family.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    But just the sheer fact that kyn tried to pass that crap off as work by the "team" to me shows the shystering that the cult of brad continues to attempt. As I've been saying, they know exactly what they're doing in continuing to perpetuate this fraud and its going to bite them in the long run.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Correct. However, the ambiguity of what he means by "left" doesn't come out to 45k. Even in the most minimal case scenario, if you trying to play it that said 35k was also denied by the trust fund guy in addition to the 200k more, then 145k-35k=110k which 38% of that is not 45k either. However...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    According to the email though he didnt claim he took 45k. He signed off on the statements that he took 38% of 145k, which when you tally it, its appx $55,100 bucks. That's a rather significant difference and due to the email, that is where we can at the very minimum attest to what he absconded...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Again, the point Im making wasnt about the veracity of the claim of the posting initially of the information by you or whomever. Others were taking up that. Official evidence already existed that this had occurred as pointed out(ie the screens of the forum and facebook(deleted) same...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I didnt accuse you of lying. I just simply asked why you'd not posted this sooner, especially when you'd exited since it obviously it was damning evidence at the time. Its still good to have public though. Better late than never n all and certainly more than some former folks have been willing...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That works. Why didnt you post that sooner or did I miss it initially?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I thought this epitomizes disjunction with pantheon folks: To start off with this was news just posted hours ago about good ole 38 studios about more investigations in to their activities: Hearing on 38 Studios' potential lobbying violations set for next week | Joystiq Rhode Island...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So what Im seeing is a debate concerning distinctions between hours worked on the project over a certain number of months VS months listed as an employee of the project. All well n good but I think we'd like to know the actual hours per month put into the project per original dev. That would...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Any former devs with the project worried about being black balled by the industry for going after brad is laughable. I imagine its a resume booster for the sheer fact of how disliked he's become with not a small number of people at various studios.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    There is a hilarious spoof video some one made of their KS video that someone linked on massively.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The gaming industry.... You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Honey coated sunflower seeds are in vogue to be sure :P
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Im thinking more like an oregon cult commune that farms sun flowers and does bee keeping.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Sorry double post. Keep getting database errors as previously mentioned in the thread a few pages back.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I liked this one from one of her face book pages: https://www.facebook.com/AuthorLaureneWells?ref=stream "Laurene Wells March 3 The new cover photo I just uploaded is a computer generated render of a vision that I had last year of the sky in heaven. I put this sky in the Visions Alpha so I...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think this is more of a case of loonies painting their own signs above their doors in bright red lambs blood making it blatantly obvious. Digging is unnecessary, really. :P
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    If he's free hosting then Brad lied about donations going to running the website on the front page of it after the former devs left the project because Brad took almost half of the 146k at the time from it and declared the game "on hold" due to lack of funds. Worse that puts Req in hot water...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    One of the generic backers of pantheon, Laurene Wells(aka Sparkling on the pantheon forums) was appointed to Brad McQuaid's lead for the project after the initial industry devs for it quit on Brad and he resorted to scraping the bottom of the barrel with backers who remained "faithful" to him...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That and sussing out how he and salters work together for R-Shief, which doesn't know the extent of their shenanigans with their resources.