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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yes lines are blurred on most sites but anything getting out n about is better than nothing imo. "News" sites with commenting enabled too at least give some ability for others like ourselves to add to the info too.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Its from the things convo quoted snippets from yesterday: things like Salim saying more than 50% was taken by brad not the 38%/45k junk, if all of it is in there. Salim's intent/goal overall seemed to be that he wanted to warn off those volunteers more than anything and have them contact him...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Same same. I get on one hand various sites not wanting to come across like Inquirer type rags but at the same time none really try to base it in an op-ed manner either except those smaller guys. Its just kinda the nature of such and not limited to game industry news/discussions on the net either.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Im the one that tipped off Massively on the volunteer part but I've been sending them for 2 weeks now on the financials situation and they've not bitten yet. Today Ive sent them the above with salim talking and as well the article with the incgamer site too. Im hoping that'll be enough to tip...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Another site has made an article on the debacle: Pantheon: Rise of the Fallens financials under scrutiny from community | IncGamers.com Also, yesterdays stuff with Salim, former lead for Pantheon, spelling out the whole of Brad's lies the docs he has proving such seems to have been...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Its that ole 3rd person style of royalty jargon that queens like Queen Victoria say.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    What is cute is yesterday he said the "50 and still coming in" on Mont's twitch stream yesterday. That already proves what he said 20min ago to be false anyways(as if the numbers were actually still coming in yesterday, it'd have been a higher quote today for one). Its just all PR theater.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    How about from the Kult's grand blow-bah himself: Re-building Pantheon Part 2 Posted by Announcements 10 minutes ago - Filed in Announcement - 15 views Just a quick update: I have received over 50 emails (at last count, they keep coming in) from people all over wanting to help out...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It was just a ploy. Reminds me of that Kevin Trudeau shyster:Kevin Trudeau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    But remember that he's also using stock unity assets that plop n drop for the most part too. One shouldn't be attempting to pass along this to folks as if this means anything beyond piddling around with it. And certainly not a quality mmo representation for what brad tried to peddle around...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Comments in many of the articles are covering it though. And as well there are other discussion forums similar to here that are talking about it. There is more dialog going that reflects many different people condemning them than even remotely painting them to be good.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Oh I dunno... that pic of her with what looks like a Thai dwarf impersonating Elvis Im sure she considers special...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    What they dont get due to the dellusional atmosphere that's being groomed in their group is that the awareness going out isn't for the cool-aid prone types. Those folks latch on to much of anything that'll take em. Its for those that are unaware of the whole mess and can be better informed so...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    As a newly minted dev, Frenzic knows what he's gotten himself into though. I just dont have much in the way of sympathy over such a decision given that this mess continues to deepen.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Too late for that for her. Also, if she were proud of being apart of the project as she cool-aidingly has been up to this point, you'd think she'd stand by her unswerving loyalty of brad and continue to not attempt to hide such so late after the fact. She best hope brad doesnt take that as a...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Cult leader tactics 101: create an insular us versus them mentality with your followers and blame all your faults on those that have either exited the group or are dissenters against it. Classic tactic.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    With the backers' money, right?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Pantheon, the rise of AL-McQuaida
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I read it more like he's finally taking his cult more seriously :P
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Just take his pic and superimpose it on to this one and caption it to ask who still wants to drink the kool-aid:
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Would be funny to see Jim Sterling talking on it.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You talking about that girl with the hindu god of death or some such name with an interest in buddhist shrines? Yeah she thinks she's gonna be a super cereal unity designer overnight. Its nice for kids to dream....
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    At this point all Brad's running is a commercial cult or a cult of personality.(Neither should be confused necessarily with a religious cult, though some overlaps exist). Lots of points are in the link below that are listed do not all have to be checked off to denote a cult but the more that...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Very possibly so. The point is that one has to question everything he says/does at this point.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Some how, I think its not bottomed out yet either.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    While "one look" can be semantically argued one way or the other, seeing just simply the project's name and crowd funding constitutes "one look" I think is easy enough to consider plausible. :P
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Edit: doh someone beat me to it above with Tony's wife's posting. Sorry I'd not refeshed the page here til after I'd posted hehe.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    At this point honestly, I have to question the authenticity of the cancer card on this and on multiple other levels. So much can be called into question. But at the end of all of it, it 100% cannot be get out of jail free card for misappropriation.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Another thing with this too though: He takes 45k as an advance for what ever reason, says that the trust funder's money was to cover it(made a bad assumption), then it didnt and the balloon popped. Does anyone -seriously- believe that Brad would've "paid back" the 45k had the trust fund...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Twitter account used by the Washington State Attorney General that is going after that other smash n grab crowdfunder:WA Attorney General (AGOWA) on Twitter
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Why the discrepancy originally of 3 months to the now declaration of 5? Anyone done the math to figure out where the 38% taken fraction fits?