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You, I like. I consider it a public service that I just added the final +net to get you back into the positive.

Are you heading for the slippery slope thing again? Because we already did that a few pages ago I think, but we can do it again if you'd like.

Sure. A lot of states have put in place laws where you can't talk on a cellphone while driving WITHOUT USING A HANDS-FREE DEVICE HI ARAYSAR

So, even if I follow the parameters of your argument, we're talking about eliminating something that has a nonzero cost to society, with no societal benefit for its existence. Sounds like a good deal to me.

Most of which pro-gunners want to roll back. Even if not, so what? Do we stop making traffic laws because there's a bunch already? Or laws to protect the environment?

I said zero cost to society. What is the societal benefit of letting you have 6000 round magazines? (Yes, I'm purposely exaggerating the number to have fun)

Sure. Make sure you send the second one to the FCC, so they stop any restrictions on broadcasting. (Incase you're not following, the point I'm making is that every single enumerated right in the Bill of Rights has SOME restrictions on it, because that is required for us to operate as a...

It could end a variety of ways. Cops showing up and taking the guy out. Someone grabbing the gun away from them. Nutjob finally realizing "hey, what I'm doing is pretty fucked up and I'm dead anyway, might as well eat a bullet now". Even possibly (oh my god, shock, Duppin positing a positive...

I'm not disdainful of it at all. Can you quote me the part of the Bill of Rights that specifically protects your right to have 100 round magazines?

Where the fuck did I say "only"?

Oh, I forgot. "Derp freedom".

But people's desire not to break the law and go to jail has zero negative effect on demand, right? Fuck, can you tag in one of your buddies or something? You're really bad at this.

Even though I deny both of those assertions, my response is "damn straight". Because the cost to society is zero.

You've been watching too many Rambo movies.

So your assertion is that someone woke up one day, found out booze and/or drugs were illegal, and said "you know, I had no interest in these substances before, but FUCK YEAH I WANT TO BREAK THE LAW TODAY!"

I think a magazine size restriction would be a damn good place to start. It's not a perfect solution, but every time you force someone who's under stress to have to fiddle with their weapon in order to keep killing, that's an opportunity for the situation to end somehow. And yes, this would...

Except, you know, that's not true. The part that you don't like, though, is that I think restrictions on guns, ammo, and magazines could be PART of the solution. You refuse to even consider that.

If your contention is that the drug war and prohibition had no effect on demand, you're powerful stupid.

Yeah, except that's not my actual position. High five, though.

Uh, you don't seem to understand that "reduce" and "eliminate" are not the same thing.

I wish I lived in the binary world you live in, where only one factor ever acts on anything.

I'll focus on this for a moment, because it gets brought up a lot. (Usually in the form of the hackneyed "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" bumper sticker) Every single "illegally purchased" weapon was produced to meet legal demand, and was purchased legally at least once...

Are you really trying to pretend that only 50 years of history counts? I can do this all day, hotshot.

Are you really trying to pretend that one person's ability to quickly inflict harm on others hasn't scaled massively in the modern world? I'm not the dumb one, if so.

When the inanimate objects in question vastly increase a person's ability to inflict harm on others, it's stupid not to look and see whether there's ways to reduce that risk to society. Otherwise, you're left waiting for some dreamworld where people stop finding reasons to harm each other...

That's a pretty accurate description of your average NRA member. Bully for you if you're the exception.

If you're not willing to consider any restrictions on guns, ammo, or magazines, what is left to restrict? Sights? Slings?

Hey, you guys are the experts. Provide me with a reasonable number. I pulled ten out of my hat as a nice round number.

Magazine size restrictions are a very easy place to start. Why do you need to be able to fire more than say ten times without reloading?

So if your answer is that any restriction on gun owners at all is stupid, why should I even bother engaging you? What makes you worth debating with?

Okay, sure. I'll ask a question. What restrictions on guns/ammo/magazines would you be willing to accept, that aren't in place currently? Speaking as a gun owner? (by the way, I'd argue people are being pretty aggro right back at me, but whatever, I'm the bad guy)

Fine. YOU'RE a pussy. Feel better?

Jesus FUCK you're stupid. Azeth brought up this same point, and I replied:

Actually, I found this and it looks pretty good: http://www.guitarjamtracks.com/ I looked at the site you linked, but it doesn't give you what keys the tracks are in, which is a big thing for me. I'm still developing my ear and I can't just listen to something and know what key I should be...

I don't really give a fuck if this is your opinion. I could turn the rest of your post around and say that you're "constantly showing how fearful you are of the ebil gubmint" but I don't think that's a particularly valid debate tactic. Your only way to 'win' this debate is to try to cast the...

This is the second time you've tried to tell me to leave this thread. My response remains the same: go fuck yourself. If you want a "yay guns are awesome" thread with no dissenting opinions, I leave the gun thread in Screenshots entirely alone.

Readily available cheap guns sure as hell contribute to the problem. Like most things in life, it's complicated. I know subtlety is a tough concept for you hardline NRA types. Also, Araysar, I grew up around guns. Nice try though.

Yeah, because it has to be the gun control laws that are causing murders, not the massive income disparities in those cities. edit: Pick the biggest caliber one, Jais. Get the job done right. Use a 60 round mag too incase you're really a terrible shot.

Only if you completely lack common sense.