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I hope the next class is the much anticipated Fighting Guy

If this is how hard they're willing to work to get your money, imagine how much effort is going to go into things once they have it

Pantheon supporters don't care for truth

Dark Knight is a truly horrible class name. Are people still defending this shit? If a 15 year old launched a MMO kickstarter it would be indistinguishable from some of the shit Brad is coming up with

Wrong + you are borderline insane with your overzealousness for this project, that's why I don't acknowledge your posts. You're fucking nuts.

It's because of my interest in the return to classic MMOs that I shit on this thread. Basically I love the idea as much as the fanboys doing viral legwork for Brad but I'm devastated by the lack of real substance coming from the actual developers of this project. I just don't have the capacity...

That started happening about 3 weeks into the winter beta, although there was a lot of people drowning it out at the time. The game is utterly flawed in just about every way a MMO can be in this age. I can't find anything positive to say about the game, even if I tried. I was relatively hyped...

Everything is going to be virtual reality with touch screens that you can't even see

Too bad it's 2 years old and from deviantart. Is this J.P. Targete guy part of the team or are you just aping his art

wow the guns actually have zero recoil, I haven't played the latest couple CoDs but I've never seen no recoil whatsoever. The robot stuff looked ok I guess

Also many people wait until it's a sure thing then put their money on the table

This one's a write-off, time to board the EQNext train

This game is for sure getting shoved out the door early, so much for those theories that they are secretly testing all this incredible Elder Game content. This is the same exact scenario we've put up with for the last 5 years

I'm not trolling I'm just really disappointed in what I've seen

It'll be different this time, you'll see! With less resources and a small band of other laid off developers they'll recreate the glory of Everquest. You don't need anything more than a shoestring budget when you have HOPE

He couldn't even research where to drum up interest for his game/kickstarter. In 4 months. If it wasn't for the fanatics here leaving no stone unturned on the internet to post about it I wonder how much money the kickstarter would have right now

I've never shit up the ESO Thread, I even said Ut is a broken record there. Oddly enough he's one of the only one's with any sense in this thread.

Wait so I can't post now unless I give Brad McQuaid money? That's a bold new crowdfunding strategy

And Gone Home is game of the year, yes review scores sure are a thing

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. Broken Age got 3.3 million dollars and all they could deliver was a 3 hour episodic piece of their game for it, and it was late. Banner Saga, I don't know how much they got, but they needed to make a f2p multiplayer game to bridge the financial gap, and...

It sounds more like he wants to lead people into believing he has some backdoor arrangement for publishing to get them to fund the 800k

It's not personal at all. I'm looking at an extremely poorly made Kickstarter of a poorly hashed out MMO with an unrealistically low goal for the genre of game and a guy telling me he doesn't fully understand Kickstarter. Like what the fuck are you doing? For real.

He'll say "we're developers, not publishing experts, we didn't budget accordingly" then snort some more crushed oxy

I should have said preying on nostalgia with an existing IP. I think Pantheon is just a bad kickstarter. And the excuse "lol we're game devs, not kickstarter experts, we don't know the system" is fucking ridiculous. Learn the goddamn system then. The future of your project (which is...

Because they didn't come out and say it was a glorified flash game. Shadowrun sucked, it's an example of a kickstarter just preying on nostalgia, and there's plenty more of those to come (wasteland 2, torment) That really has nothing to do with anything

This doesn't give me EQ vibes at all, it's oozing Vanguard though. They need a badass midi playing like the original Everquest website

This is the best advice in the thread. Use this whole mess as a valuable learning tool, because it's all incredibly poorly done and instills zero confidence than Brad or his team can actually pull off an MMO if they can't pull off a kickstarter page

Yeah like their game sucking

Well he's either right about the revenue share or Brad didn't even take the time to explore his engine options because he was flat out wrong about Hero, which despite some big budget failures is a pretty goddamn powerful tool for MMORPG construction. So I guess which is worse, not performing...

I honestly believe this forum could not only come up with a better pitch for a MMO but lay out a really thorough and compelling design document for one, more so than anything we've seen from Pantheon. There should be several key tenements and they should be explained so fully and convincingly...

I just don't see anything but a really bad name, really generic cop-out 'new world' lore, and a bunch of "yeah it will be like those old games" answers to every gameplay questions. In essence it's fluff, but instead of the shit all the people who make WoW clones tell us, they are just telling...

They've gone full tumblr, it happened so fast too. My favorite part was how Scooter was "disgusted" and threatened to ban people for being ok with the large breasts they put on the characters (no one else but them did it) and all the backpedaling pretending like they never intended to have large...

They are letting clickbaiting SJWs dictate their game design now, abandon all hope. The meltdown on the beta forum is even worse (and Scooter has been handling it terribly) If only tumblr feminists and white knights hated 2 faction systems in MMOs because it is too reminiscent of the binary...

You realize that's not the standalone right? They just want you to think it is

They probably have no concept art

I think this is just a great example of the power of hype. No one seems to realize it's a phone game developed by mobile game devs, they are just throwing money at it. The next Shadowrun but probably even more limited

You would think these veterans of the industry would have so much to say on how they will make a great game given all their collective experience, but they took a high school project approach of applying the bare minimum effort to get by. It's like they literally have nothing

Just spent who knows how long on a 3k ticket server, 130 DMR kills and the server crashes with 100 tickets left. I was about 4 kills from the next unlock which would have saved my progress. That's about as soul crushing as it gets.

What would be commendable is if he actually did devote himself to turning Vanguard around. This generic game doesn't even looks much better graphically, if it is at all. Surely starting over is harder than trying to fix Vanguard. There's probably tons of systems and assets that would give...

Not only that but those ones stormed out the gate. Camelot made 500k in the first day. This made 40k, and it probably all came from here. This game is already way more Vanguard than it is EQ. It just screams generic and half-assed. A calculated ploy from a narcissist instead of a project of...