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Collins at left tackle and Whitworth at left guard is hilarious. It should be their standard o line.

The system was broken from inception.

Congrats, Ham, to our first winner of the season, edging out me, the reigning champion, in the college football challenge: Ham - 2369 Tea - 2368 I wish we had more than 4 people; it's a really good mini game.

MSU - Stanford Rose Bowl is going to be fucking awesome.

It makes a lot of sense. 57 yards isn't an atrocious distance, even if it's 20% that's way better than a hail Mary. Playing the odds.

In this season of giving it's easy to forget this. Truly, the whole bag of dicks.

Of course, but playoff CFB! That's just better. Also, I think OSU should definitely be in the title game over USC south.

If only we had a playoff. BCS, still shit.

I don't think OSU gets blown out by anyone or has a boring game against anyone. Their offense is really fucking good.

I want to see how the Big 10 title game goes. If OSU has another squeaker then I'm cool with them getting jumped. If they have a dominant win against maybe the best defense in the country then I think they should go to the title game. OSU has played a pretty shit schedule this year, and the Big...

Lol

Once you wave a punt off it can't be advanced in college, I thought.

Amazing game. Had to go for two, no way they make it through overtime with no kicker and tOSU's run game.

Lynch for Heisman.

1. You were the one who asked why he isn't starting. The previous mentions were in regard to the draft as a benchmark for bad passing mechanics. 2. He tried to throw plenty of check downs. He just missed them a lot. You don't get 6.38 ypa by airing it out. 3. No you couldn't. Don't be an...

Some men aren't interested in anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch a quarterback noodle arm a ball in the vague direction of a receiver. At least Ryan Mallett can deliver balls 10 yards away from the nearest...

Jesus, I didn't realize it was that mediocre. This discussion doubly retarded.

He was in camp this year. He had a chance. You're right the NFL is all about winning, which is why he's unemployed.

Because he got his wins the same way RG3 and Kaep did - the read option. Except RG3 and Kaep are both shit this year because the NFL figured out the read option, despite both of them being much better passers than Tebow. So, it seems a lot like you are saying that despite the gimmick offense...

But everyone who's not an idiot thinks he's a far better passer than Tebow, which is why Tebow doesn't have a job.

Yes, that is why Tebow is unemployed.

You can't fucking win games in the NFL in 2013 by running the read option. Tebow would have to pass from the pocket, which he does terribly, which is why he's unemployed. He just won games because he ran a gimmicky offense that has since been shut the fuck down. He's not in the league because...

Geno Smith all day every day. Tebow was fucking awful when he was in Denver, but no one had spent anytime trying to defense the read option. Now that that ship has sailed, how often do you expect Tim "30% completion against 3rd stringers in the preseason" Tebow to just win games? Did you guys...

I was going to type a serious reply, but instead I'll say this: fucking lol.

His arm strength is average to good, but his god awful footwork means his velocity is inconsistent. Tebow:Throwing Motion::JFF:Footwork

The big knocks apart from size are that his footwork is a God damn abomination, and while he makes good reads his decision making on scrambles is troubling.

They run the triple option though, right? On a related note, I might watch too much football when I know what offense middle of the pack FCS teams run.

I think it would have taken a lot to oust Muschamp this year, but losing to GSU might do it. You can't blame a loss to an FCS school on injuries. That's a failure of coaching.

Technically, under the rules, the offensive player does have the responsibility to protect himself. I think the rule is fine, but it's going to need time for refs to call it consistently and establish conventions on how it's called.

He's got a ridiculous arm, and he's accurate when his footwork isn't horrific, which is often. He's got good pocket awareness, and decent decision making. So, it comes down to NFL scouts believing that Mariota can develop as a pocket passer whereas Manziel is the most boom or bust prospect in...

Cardinals defense was baller last year. Imagine the Chiefs except instead of bringing in Alex "Volvo" Smith they brought in the corpse of Carson "Home of the back breaking int" Palmer.

I've watched Kuechly a few times this season, and I don't get the hype. He's good, but not blue chip.

Well at least someone is going to get punched in the mouth before this game ends.

CAR 4 NE 2

Ah the old upper deck drunken handrail slide.

Well it's likely we get OSU - Oregon, which should be nearly as ridiculous.

It's been that way for awhile. You have X minutes from X time and then you must switch, excepting home markets.

What's it like to be so wrong?

Looks like the storm line is drawing in on Cincy now. Winds picking up and some serious gusts.

Joe Haden happened. He's pretty good.