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For clarity, Brad showed zero work. His dev's showed some things but Brad himself has been off trying to secure funding and failed to even do that. He doesn't even post on his own forums.

You have to be accredited for Brad to even talk to you. He is a very picky man.

I just asked the guys in the chat, If Brad refunded your money and asked everyone to re-pledge tomorrow, who would? 8 of those that responded said yes absolutely I would donate again. 2 said no, me and Ktam

I disagree, coming into a project that many of us are passionate about it one thing, but he came in completely unprepared and lied about at least a few things on record. If this was done intelligently and honestly, it would be a different story if it failed. At least from me

Just went up a few hours ago for those who didn't see it yet.

The level of defense going on at the website is insane. The majority(the 20 that still post) are still behind Brad. Can non subs read the forums? It's worth it if you can.

"Ryan said: Brad I hope you're reading this right now. See the above post, 8:15 an hour just so you go enjoy your dirt bike racing in wonderful San Diego." "I peronsally know that the team, including me, used the money to pay down bills and keep above water during the long stretch (most...

K tam says "Also you need to remember the money via paypal went directly to Brad and not to VRI as the e-mail accepting the money was his personal Pantheon e-mail account and NOT a VRI Account. There would be a gray area there as to who or which entity would be responsible. Only if you feel...

Pcgamer article bro

Some of the devs were on the show and mentioned the possibility of continuing without Brad. Oh snap...

Its Ktam radio which means they record their mumble conversation. At current I believe its going on 4 hours long. They do record and put it on their website though.

The money went exactly where Brad planned it to go. Check his garage!

LOL

Vhalen is on Ktam radio right now and said straight up that he doesn't blame the fans for wanting a charge back. He said the entire team was blind sided by Brad's announcement and he is very disappointed. For those that don't know, Vhalen is one of the few devs that actually did work. He is the...

Quote from Brad the man. "Thank you Oberson. Making an MMO does take a lot of time -- 3 years for EQ, 5 years for Vanguard, and the plan for Pantheon being 3 years once we're able to offer full time employment and an office. The crowd-funding we did to bring us to this state, where we...

On a side rant... One of the worst things that happened during this whole project was the PR. They hired a guy to specifically handle PR and he dropped the ball harder than I've ever seen. I know Ben from EQ and I can say he was completely over his head with this. Coming from Ten Ton Hammer did...

150k that was originally labeled as going to developing the game. In the interview tonight and talking with Salim on the boards tonight a completely different narrative was shown. Brad stated that the money so far has gone towards making this yet to be seen demo, mostly lore was made other than...

Damn that's a shame. That guy did a ton for the community it seemed.

LOL who and when? God I've missed much

I just listened to the Ktam interview and I'm shocked! I thought it was going to be a bunch of softball don't worry Brad type of questions, but not at all. The interviewer ripped Brad pretty good. It was mostly polite but many of the things the guy said are echoed here as well as on the Pantheon...

Yea Shado.. I mean Dark Knight without a necro is just odd. I hope they change that as well. They have the cleric paladin so wtf?

I'm pretty disappointed with the round tables so far. I don't know exactly what I was expecting but right now it's just an hour long interview with a fan site. When I heard developer round table, I thought they would be chatting directly with us about the game and the decisions that were going...

I can see the argument behind having the ability to use custom UI's but my comment was not about that. I was referring to the people who argue moving the default UI around. Yes there are people who don't even want the player to be able to move the windows around... As for Custom UI's, that's...

Some of the people over there are just fucking retarded. Why under any circumstance would you want a tedious and completely meaningless "lack of" feature like having to make an assist key? Someone did a poll that reads "Autotarget target of target? When assisting your main tank do you...

This?https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/...png?1388995319 Came a long way and I assume it's just one person working on this.

Where did they say that they were working on the map since September? I highly doubt they had even the info for this map back then. Map looks nice, call a spade a spade man.

They just posted a map of the first (only for now) continent.http://www.pantheonrotf.com/public/a..._map_final.jpg Looks a lot more professional than some of the stuff they put out before. I would not complain if the cloth map ended up looking like that.

Proper management is the first step. Showing in game footage isn't going to help unless it looks amazing. They tried with the screen shots and people just hated on it. Looks bland, looks like it was done in 30 mins ect. They tried with the Vu video things and again, same response. I'd like to...

There's a lot of negativity and with good reason. I don't think the majority of the posters here are just blind haters though. There are some but I think if Pantheon does something well, they will get just credit for it. I think Rerolled is capable of being objective and fair other wise I would...

I'm curious, what kind of money would designate "Angel Investor?"

I've been in contact with the PR guy for Pantheon, Ben. We briefly discussed what has been going on over here at Rerolled. The reason they have gone silent is that they feel that they can no longer reach anything positive over here. They do in fact read this thread from time to time. Instead of...

Is that a stock asset?

Did he really say this?

Vanguard sold many boxes even though it was completely unfinished. The demand for this type of game, done right, is there. Also comparing a game release to a kickstarter is not fair. The backers of Vanguard only had to pay for a box and they had a great deal to see. If you weren't in beta you...

I haven't followed this project but it looks like they are using old Tallon Zek teams for the most part but with three instead of four. Same problem for the dark team. As a member of the dark team I can tell you that we had no problem raiding up into Velious. Yes not having certain classes is...

I hate that they are doing backpay when they claimed all along that this was pro bono. They lied plain and simple. This game will not be made unless some sort of publisher comes on board. My guess is that the crowd fund money will go towards the demo to which they will try and sell to a...

Not directed at you. More directed at the posters who think they can bully opinion. When an opinion that's positive Pantheon comes out there are certain posters who will jump on it. I was just trying to say that when positive news does happen, I'll be here reporting it and they can kiss my ass...

Eqclassic. Eqemu. YouTube. In game. Plenty of places where people talk about old ever quest.

I'm not a thin skinned individual. I'm going to continue to report the news including positive and negative steps. If you feel like shitting on the positive and slurping up the negative, fine just don't direct your rage and blind hatred at me. I will continue to trash them for their down...

Its always a good move to fix a problem no matter how far gone something is. I agree with this last point though. They are completely over their heads.