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This post is so misguided I don't even know where to start. You.............played EQ right?

No offense, but this is the same argument I've been hearing since 1999. No matter what developers do with PVP, all the PVP players just state it sucks, then quit.

Your right then, citation needed. The percentage of PVP players has increased? I wasn't aware of that.

This makes no sense. 90% of players are PVE, yet devs should focus the majority of the structure on a game only 10% of the population plays?

As a wizard in my early days in EQ I couldn't find a group to save my life. I solo'd most of my first 50 levels(obviously an exaggeration, but you get the point) until I got into KC. Once I joined a raiding guild, it was never a problem again. I couldn't even log in before getting multiple...

Trust me. The 10 page derail is better conversation then the garbage EQN is going to deliver. Does anyone seriously have any faith in SOE creating a great game?

Vanguard really was an underrated game. When I introduced my wife to MMO's, I was so burned on EQ(former 14 hour a day raiding guild member) I didn't even want to look at it so I fired up VG for her. Showed her the ropes and it was nearly humorous. She was hooked from the word go. I was still...

That, I couldn't agree with more. All to often now the classes in current MMO's are all the same with different names. Just because playerswantthe ability to do everything, it's not that great an idea in practice.

LOL, ok.

What are you talking about? Our raid tank was a SK right up through POT when the guild left for WOW.

Aww chill man. It's a fucking forum for gaming. How are you going to complain someone is talking to much? haha. I agree with 90% of what qwerty says. Not sure why he's determined to get RRP'ed by constantly insulting Draegan, but hey, to each his own. I like his opinions.

THIS, is what makes your palms sweat, your heart starts racing, your fingers trembling on the mouse as you navigate a dangerous area, hoping,PRAYINGyou don't get spotted by a mob. THIS, is what made EQ great. The fear of death, and the complete fist pumping exhilaration when you finally make it...

SOE doesn't even try to sell the MMO division. ZERO effort. WOW on the other hand is everywhere you look with every celebrity under the sun. Adds, internet, television, magazines. SOE knows how to advertise, they just don't care if it's not related to the PS3. Shame, given the same resources...

I honestly think that Vanguard, in it's initial version would have held steady between 600 and 800k subs consistently.

I wonder if there is a way to find out the numbers registered on the Sigil forums. Before it got watered down to what it is today I remember the forums being super active. It's only when they were forced to cut it's fucking nuts off because Microsoft wanted WOW numbers that people started to leave.

To be fair the huge jump to 550,000 was due to all the alts who were left on 24 hours a day in the Bazaar when Luclin was released.

I have ZERO hope for EQ Next. They are going to crap out probably the worst game design we've ever seen. Not to mention it's sure to be loaded with micro-transactions. Raping it's customers is Sony's specialty.

All of your ideas are the very reason MMO's suck today. Unless were talking veeshan's peak, worst case scenario, you have to ask(SHOCK, actually, TALK to another player haha) a high level, or do a /who all, find someone in the zone that you remember seeing close to your camp and have them jet...

Up in my closet I still have binders full of printed maps in plastic sleeves haha. I used to have the main 20 or so all taped to my wall. Remember telling someone how to get to the camp?"Just head left along the wall until you reach the giant rock sticking up out of the water. Go right, then...

Funny part is, companies are dropping 150-$200 million to make today's newer games that nobody wants to play. Your correct, nobody wants to make a true social MMO with a ruleset that is more difficult and time consuming, however you can't help that notice that current MMO's are having a...